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minus-square@SuddenlyBlowGreenlink2•edit-21 year agoSo your version of the christians god is not omnipotent and omnicient?
minus-squareZloubidalinkEnglish0•1 year agoHe is. But he also loves us thus he will not use his omnipotence to make us do something we do not want. And omnipotence can’t go against logic.
minus-square@SuddenlyBlowGreenlink1•1 year agoIf he is, then he is not benevolent. After all, he could have created us with free will and no suffering, but chose not to. So he either is not omnipotent, or is not benevolent.
minus-squareZloubidalinkEnglish0•1 year ago After all, he could have created us with free will and no suffering, but chose not to. Could he? Like I said, omnipotence can’t go against logic. Which free will would we have if we couldn’t make bad and suffering-inducing decisions?
minus-square@SuddenlyBlowGreenlink1•1 year agoWell, if he were truly omnipotent (and real), he could have created free will that doesn’t go against logic and without suffering.
So your version of the christians god is not omnipotent and omnicient?
He is. But he also loves us thus he will not use his omnipotence to make us do something we do not want. And omnipotence can’t go against logic.
If he is, then he is not benevolent.
After all, he could have created us with free will and no suffering, but chose not to.
So he either is not omnipotent, or is not benevolent.
Could he? Like I said, omnipotence can’t go against logic. Which free will would we have if we couldn’t make bad and suffering-inducing decisions?
Well, if he were truly omnipotent (and real), he could have created free will that doesn’t go against logic and without suffering.