• chaogomu
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    21 year ago

    Here’s a fun little article.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2018/05/15/solar-and-wind-lock-in-fossil-fuels-that-makes-saving-the-climate-harder-slower-more-expensive/

    While it’s more than 5 years old, and energy storage has gotten better, the fact still remains that solar and wind need some sort of backup power source, and the only thing that can currently respond fast enough, with enough capacity, is natural gas.

    The really fucked up part of all of this is, fossil fuel backed groups, including some environmental groups, are pushing to take nuclear offline in favor of solar and wind (but really natural gas peaker plants that can charge exorbitant rates)

    • LordR
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      11 year ago

      And that Article was written by Michael Shellenberger, a person who previously lobbied for the usage of Shale gas and is considered to be a Nuclear Energy lobbyist.

      The main energy source in Sweden is Hydroelectric power which is quite good at storing energy at least if you use Pumped-storage hydroelectricity. Additionally the price for batteries goes down each year. The cost for 1KWh of a Salt Water Battery in Switzerland for example is about 800 CHF or 815 € (https://www.energieheld.ch/solaranlagen/stromspeicher/salzspeicher). I chose that specific battery type because it is environmentally friendly and recycleable. If we would start to equip buildings with such batteries, we could store more and more energy decentralized which would make the energy grid way more stable in the long run.
      Meanwhile last December many Nuclear power plants in France shut down, resulting in massive price hikes for electricity. That’s the reason my electricity bill doubled out of nothing. So no, Nuclear Power Plants are not making our electricity prices more stable.
      Additionally Europe is quite huge. Sure, there are times where there is now wind or sun in Sweden but then you have Portugal which is connected to the same grid. If done right using renewables is going to create a more stable electricity grid and actually help regular people to afford electricity by generating it themselves.