Indeed. Even if they all became atheists overnight, Palestinians will still need a place to live with jobs, water, electricity, security and economic opportunity.
Imprisoning them in desert ghettos and blockading them will only further breed resentment and violence.
I agree with you. Which is why every time either side injects religion into it, they muddy the waters. Imagine if all religion were forcibly subtracted from the entire dialogue and they just had to negotiate over armistice, land, and rights. Seems like it might actually have a chance. But with zealots on both sides, it’ll never get down to pragmatics.
I think it’s much better known how Islam is full of shit. If you ever want to know how full of shit Judaism is, go learn about the ultra orthodox. The labyrinthine contortions of keeping kosher are enough for me to call crazy.
But I think at the bottom, it’s not about religion for the Jews of Israel. It’s about racial identity and self determination. Unfortunately, they chose to create a home in perhaps the most contentious place possible. They did this to tap into religious belief as a source of zeal and solidarity.
So even if Israel is not primarily a religious phenomenon, it decided it was going to play with religion and double down on religion. This helps mask the fact that it’s basically an ethnostate. They’ve been hiding their racial ethnostate behind accusations of anti-semitism for a long, long time.
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This is not a religious struggle. It’s a political struggle, just with religious overtones.
Indeed. Even if they all became atheists overnight, Palestinians will still need a place to live with jobs, water, electricity, security and economic opportunity.
Imprisoning them in desert ghettos and blockading them will only further breed resentment and violence.
I agree with you. Which is why every time either side injects religion into it, they muddy the waters. Imagine if all religion were forcibly subtracted from the entire dialogue and they just had to negotiate over armistice, land, and rights. Seems like it might actually have a chance. But with zealots on both sides, it’ll never get down to pragmatics.
I think it’s much better known how Islam is full of shit. If you ever want to know how full of shit Judaism is, go learn about the ultra orthodox. The labyrinthine contortions of keeping kosher are enough for me to call crazy.
But I think at the bottom, it’s not about religion for the Jews of Israel. It’s about racial identity and self determination. Unfortunately, they chose to create a home in perhaps the most contentious place possible. They did this to tap into religious belief as a source of zeal and solidarity.
So even if Israel is not primarily a religious phenomenon, it decided it was going to play with religion and double down on religion. This helps mask the fact that it’s basically an ethnostate. They’ve been hiding their racial ethnostate behind accusations of anti-semitism for a long, long time.