I think if he was in the thread trying to answer the hard questions, explaining how some of the apparently more l blatent lies were mistakes and apologising for them, and admitting that they need to go back to the drawing board and listen to the community more, then we’d all have regained a little trust in him and the company. But instead he’s ignoring most people and pretending everything is fine.
I think that’s true, but I also think it’s true that he had decided beforehand, as evidenced by his copy and paste issue giving away he had pre-prepared answers.
I’m really not sure what anyone thought would be achieved with that AMA, given the way it was approached, other than possibly trying to give users a space to simply vent in the hope it would draw a line under things.
Absolutely. The frustrating thing is that there was no need for it to be like this. If they’d have just said “look, there’s no easy way to cut this, but the third party apps cut into our bottom line and we’ve got to a place where we can’t let that slide any more”, I think people would have grumbled but understood. Have a decent period of transition time (I’m talking 6-12 months) during which they have a big push to bring the official app at least close to feature parity with the third party apps. I wouldn’t call that “everyone’s a winner”, but it would have been something everyone could have lived with, I think.
It really is impressive just how much he fucked that up
I think the crowd had decided beforehand, there was nothing he could say to change their minds. So he didn’t bother.
I think if he was in the thread trying to answer the hard questions, explaining how some of the apparently more l blatent lies were mistakes and apologising for them, and admitting that they need to go back to the drawing board and listen to the community more, then we’d all have regained a little trust in him and the company. But instead he’s ignoring most people and pretending everything is fine.
Yeah, that would have been better for sure. But no, his response was to give both users and third party devs the middle finger
I think that’s true, but I also think it’s true that he had decided beforehand, as evidenced by his copy and paste issue giving away he had pre-prepared answers.
I’m really not sure what anyone thought would be achieved with that AMA, given the way it was approached, other than possibly trying to give users a space to simply vent in the hope it would draw a line under things.
Why even bother with the AMA in the first place though? He could have just made a post saying “fuck you all we’re doing this” instead.
i would have respected that more
Absolutely. The frustrating thing is that there was no need for it to be like this. If they’d have just said “look, there’s no easy way to cut this, but the third party apps cut into our bottom line and we’ve got to a place where we can’t let that slide any more”, I think people would have grumbled but understood. Have a decent period of transition time (I’m talking 6-12 months) during which they have a big push to bring the official app at least close to feature parity with the third party apps. I wouldn’t call that “everyone’s a winner”, but it would have been something everyone could have lived with, I think.
on the plus side we get to mess about with lemmy for a bit
im new to reddit drama, but it did seem that many people already know precisely how spez would handle it - and they were right.