How do y’all cope with this

  • @[email protected]
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    11 year ago

    If billionaires are threatened with death, they are incentiviced to keep democratic coordination to a minimum. As cooperatives are deeply democratic, they will require the understanding that blanket billionaire killings are no option to establish them broadly in all industries or billionaires cannot allow to lose their influence.

    A side argument about social mobility. If only class losers are workers, not many people are left who can effectively represent workers.

    • @WaxedWookie
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      21 year ago

      Billionaires are already incentivised to keep democratic coordination to a minimum - see their consistent, often violent union busting efforts.

      When workers rather than the bourgeois own the means of production, why would workers be class losers? With fairer taxation used to fund better opportunity for all, the power of the wealthy evaporates as the power of the workers grows.

      • @[email protected]
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        11 year ago

        Union busting is a business decision, preserving one’s life should have higher priorities. Violence will be higher if lives are defended.

        Workers would become class losers in a second step when a new elite can gain control by disenfranchising workers again.

        • @WaxedWookie
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          21 year ago

          I wish to eliminate the “elites” one way or another - I’m not sure the response will change (though the pretext they have for retaliation may).

          Without an elite class, there’s noone with the resources, power or motivation to disenfranchise the workers again.

          • @[email protected]
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            11 year ago

            To me the problem is that the elite are more a symptom like hunger that cannot be destroyed. The workers have to be fed with education to bring equality. But who wants to be forced into school?

            • @WaxedWookie
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              21 year ago

              The massive inequity of wealth distribution isn’t necessary or unaddressable - we already tax them… We could just do that far more.

              The workers don’t need to be forced into education, only given the opportunity to participate if they choose (without today’s frequently insurmountable obstacles of cost and time). We still need workers for “unskilled” jobs - we just need to ensure that their labour is adequately rewarded, which can come at the expense of the do-nothing shareholder leeches.