Context (for those who don’t know): Israel and Palestine

  • @[email protected]
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    -231 year ago

    Lol at all of the wannabe thirteen year old edgleords on lemmy who are so confident that they understand this extremely complicated and protracted conflict such that they can reduce it to a single generic cause but can’t even be bothered to look up which of the two world wars is the correct one to reference for their edgy meme.

    • Yeah sure. There is absolutely no pattern of former colonizers creating structures that lead to tensions and violence as they leave. Destabilizing entire regions would never be in the interest of receding former global powers or in the interest of current global powers. They all want all the humans in the world to love each other and live in peace and harmony.

      • @charliespider
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        -21 year ago

        It’s still the decision of the people living in those lands whether to choose hatred and violence as a way to solve their problems.

        • Zoolander
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          11 year ago

          Are you sure it’s not the decision of the people attacking them?

          Note that I’m being intentionally vague to point out how silly your statement is.

          • @charliespider
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            11 year ago

            Your point doesn’t make any sense because the people doing the attacking are the ones that I’m accusing of choosing violence and hatred. So your comment could be rewritten as:

            Are you sure it’s not the decision of the people attacking them to choose to attack them?

            Yeah that makes sense!

            As well, my point was aimed at both sides since both the Israelis and Palestinians are acting out of hatred for each other and this insanity will never end as long as both parties continue to behave this way.

            As long as the Palestinians continue to allow Hamas to launch terrorist attacks from Palestinian neighborhoods into Israel, Israel will continue to treat Palestinians as terrorists and bomb their neighborhoods.

            Conversely:

            As long as Israel continues to treat Palestinians as terrorists and bomb their neighborhoods, Palestinians will continue to allow Hamas to launch terrorist attacks from Palestinian neighborhoods into Israel.

            See the problem? This will never end.

            • Zoolander
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              11 year ago

              If they’re being attacked, then they’re not the ones choosing violence and hatred. They are reacting to the violence and hatred being done to them.

              As well, my point was aimed at both sides since both the Israelis and Palestinians are acting out of hatred for each other and this insanity will never end as long as both parties continue to behave this way.

              Exactly what everyone is pointing out and why you’re being downvoted. Your statement was meaningless since both sides would need to choose to stop and that still wouldn’t resolve the conflict.

              • @charliespider
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                01 year ago

                If they’re being attacked, then they’re not the ones choosing violence and hatred.

                No shit Sherlock

                They are reacting to the violence and hatred being done to them.

                Reacting how? With violence? And hatred? So your rebuttal is:

                they’re not “choosing” violence and hatred… they’re “reacting” with violence and hatred

                That’s just brilliant!

                Exactly what everyone is pointing out…

                No I’m pretty certain the vast majority of people are choosing one side over the other and are NOT pointing out that both sides share some responsibility

    • @[email protected]
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      21 year ago

      It’s not that complicated, the land in question has been owned by a conquering empire for the better part of two millenia. After WWII and emipres falling out of favor, splitting it up was decided. The locals didn’t like the jews getting a country and attacked, they lost. They mobilized for round two, and Israel hit first and won again. Since then Israel started giving back land it seized to the respective countries, in exchange for not attacking again. The region has been at an uneasy truce for 50ish years other than Palestine launching terrorist attacks every few years.