• @[email protected]
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    -39 months ago

    The Nazis played on Germans agrievement over how they were treated post WW1 to gain support, Gaza only ended up on the situation it is now because surrounding countries kept attacking Isreal over the last 70 years and lost land to them, then Hamas/the PLO/etc have played on similar agrievements to get themselves into the leadership position and have now lead them into a war.

    • المنطقة عكف عفريتOP
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      79 months ago

      Gaza only ended up on the situation it is now because surrounding countries kept attacking Isreal over the last 70 years and lost land to them, then Hamas/the PLO/etc have played on similar agrievements to get themselves into the leadership position and have now lead them into a war.

      Just FYI, Gazans are refugees who were forced to the Gaza strip by… ISRAEL! Woohoo.

      • @[email protected]
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        -39 months ago

        Yes, war creates refugees, always has. Maybe all those surrounding nations that went to war with Isreal should have considered that.

    • Flying Squid
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      79 months ago

      Are you actually claiming Israel has no culpability when it comes to the suffering of the people of Gaza?

      • @[email protected]
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        -19 months ago

        No, not no culpability, but understandable reasons for what they’ve had to do for their own safety over the years.

        • Flying Squid
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          29 months ago

          One would think not escalating situations might be better for their own safety…

          • @[email protected]
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            19 months ago

            Seems to be the escalation was Hamas invasion of their country on Saturday from where I’m sitting.

            • Flying Squid
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              59 months ago

              Gaza is not Hamas and Hamas is not Gaza. Those children are innocent and they’re nearly half the population, as the post says. When you put a huge number of innocent people under siege, and kill more of them than were killed on your side, you’re escalating.

              • @[email protected]
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                19 months ago

                Like it or not, Hamas are the defacto leader of Gaza, voted for in 2006. You can make all sorts of arguments about what’s happened after that, but if the people of Gaza have made no attempt to remove them from leadership since then this is the outcome.

                • Flying Squid
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                  49 months ago

                  How many of those children voted for Hamas in 2006? Exactly how many?

                  • @[email protected]
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                    19 months ago

                    How many children voted for various governments that lead their countries to war throughout history?

                • المنطقة عكف عفريتOP
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                  29 months ago

                  Hamas are the defacto leader of Gaza, voted for in 2006. You can make all sorts of arguments about what’s happened after that, but if the people of Gaza have made no attempt to remove them from leadership since then this is the outcome.

                  Sure, let’s blame the civilian Palestinian deaths on the Israelis that voted this current gov’t into power…

                  Oh wait, this isn’t how it works

    • Cethin
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      29 months ago

      Israel didn’t exist there prior…

      They took land (rather, were given land by western empires that wasn’t there’s to give) and kicked out and killed those who were there. Yeah, that’s didn’t create any resentment at all I’m sure and it’s all the attacks that happened in response that caused it.

      Someone else can always be blamed. To act like Israel doesn’t share in the blame is probably one of the most ignorant statements I’ve heard.