My daughter’s America has become apocalyptic — safe states scattered, broken up by vast stretches of hostility

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    12 years ago

    Colleges are hands down the most inclusive and overtly supportive places of the trans people. yes there is pushback by red states but that is far from the norm. “people who actively hate them for no reason at all” hate is an easy pejorative and untrue statement to disregard peoples opinion. Most disagreeing people see trans people much like how most people see furies. They don’t agree with it personally but they respect there right to do what they want. they think its not entirely right that some one should come dressed in a full furry outfit to work. They dont think its right that there kids kinder garden teacher should be explaining the life of furies and yifing to my kids and that they need to decide if they are actually human or not. I dont mind my kids learning about that stuff when there in there teens and hell i wouldn’t even mind if they grew up to be a furry if its what made them happy. we just wouldnt want it overly presented to them as a kid.

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      02 years ago

      Hi in my opinion you can go fuck yourself and you shouldn’t even exist if this is the way you are.

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        02 years ago

        Telling people to “go fuck themselves” as a negative is very hurtful to the asexual community and other people who express self love.

        Your obviously just a right wing nazi trying to troll so just go back to 4 chan if your gonna spend hate and tell people to stop “existing”. Ovously a nazi dog whistle for violence you bigot.

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          lol ya it hurts doesn’t it? now imagine rather than your bigoted opinion making you that way you were instead born that way. You see YOU can change your opinion but these people cannot. They deal with that type of unhinged hate on a daily basis just for being who they are. You don’t want your kids to see a person in drag, Why? How is that going to affect them? They may realize people who are different are not necessarily dangerous and they won’t adopt the same horrible attitude as you? Drag book readings are meant to normalize a group of people who are the most severely persecuted for being who they are in public. They are statistically zero danger to your children. On the other hand 1/4 girls who attend church are molested. It’s such a common problem they sell insurance to religious institutions for it. You calling me a bigot is an absolute joke and shows you weren’t even intelligent enough to see the obvious point I was trying to make. Furries are nothing like trans people what a fucking joke.

          https://www.ministryinsured.com/church-insurance/liability/abuse-molestation/

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            Ok you dropped a lot there. Let’s dissect this

            • about my kids seeing people in drag. I’m gonna refer you back to my furry comment.

            • trans people dont touch kids. It’s easy to put those words in my mouth but I never claimed or implied that. My issue lies more with a new culture in western society that overtly promotes trans ideology when much of society doesn’t believe this. There’s issues not just with conservatives but with feminist who don’t like men winning woman of the Year and being the face of woman hood. A biological male shouldn’t be the face for real women that are going though a huge fight in this country currently over there rights with there bodys. As well in left leaning ideology there is a concept of intersectionality that tells us it’s ok if other cultures & countys don’t identify with western ideas of LGBTQ beliefs because the west shouldn’t practice imperial practices of enforcing our ways on others. However, this concept that culture is maliuble and not set in stone would apply to those in this county as well.

            • churches and molestation. 2 wrongs don’t make a right. People duality of blaming others for sexual misconduct without first cleaning up there own back yard is ironic at best. I’ll deffiemtly agree with you on this point.

            • i threw out a satirical response of you being a right wing bigot because you told me to go fuck my self. You your are not going to be respectful nether will I. Seething over your presumed ideas of me is the definition of ignorance. You are angry about people preciving trans people in a wrongful light with villainous stereotypes but if you do that to others then you embodying the very ideas you hate.

            • furries So someone cannot identify as a dog? Why? Someone can take estergon and get surgery to fit there precived sex why can that be done for a species? Dressing in a dog costume and dressing in drag different why? Because societies definition of what “proper clothing” should look like. How many kids spend there days pretending to be a cat, dinosaur, dog, etc… And are told no there a human. If we did that with someone about there gender they would be reprimanded for this but when it comes to identity of species or even more controversially, race? How does that differ from a different identity in gender? Call furries identities a “fucking joke” then tell me why because it sound quite hypocritical.

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              You don’t get to fain outrage about my statements regarding furries while putting them in the same bucket as “things you don’t want your kids to see.” You assumed my response would be that of a right wing bigot while simultaneously sharing their views. Your exact argument regarding furries is used to belittle the rights of trans people by right wing politicians. Bruce Bostleman made that exact argument before congress recently while fighting to restrict gender affirming care and bathroom access to trans children. Again Furries are a fandom they are not and do not claim a gender identity. The closest thing you get to what I guess you think a Furry is, is sometimes called tran-species another term used commonly by people like Bostleman to make those same arguments. The preferred term however is Otherkin or Therian because those in those subcultures themselves find that term offensive they know they are not the same as Trans people and find its use against trans people horrible. If you going to so fervently defend a group maybe you should learn a little about them first. Many people within that fandom are trans and would be deeply offended by your statements. In regards to your “satirical” response, which is it? I believe you took that statement at face value and responded like any person would. You see that was the point to make you for a fleeting moment deal with the hate a trans person, like me, deals with on a daily basis.

              The point regarding churches was meant to show how the “Normal” people who espouse this this rhetoric and hate are statistically far more dangerous than trans people conducting book readings who are just attempting to normalize their very existence.

              I hope you grow as a person but I doubt you will even finish reading this. By some miracle you do you are in the wrong here, your a bigot, but you can change that, accept that and move on. Regardless I am done with this conversation.