You think freedom is not having anyone tell you what you can’t do.
You think homeless people don’t constantly get told what they can’t do
You don’t think freedom is being free to live the life you want.
In other words, someone dumped in the middle of the Sahara without food or water, and a pair of broken legs will just love being the freest person on earth until their death in a few hours.
I think homeless people feel free because they are unburdened by the pressures that society puts on all of us. You’re probably just so used to the burden, having never lived without it, it would be unfamiliar to not carry that weight.
I did not propose an alternative, just that, we are not free. Its a lie we tell ourselves.
Freedom to die, suffering while there’s (as far as you claim - I disagree) no-one to tell you what to do isn’t freedom.
Freedom to live the way you want is freedom.
I’m well aware of the pressures that have been put upon me, but ignoring them and suffering the incredible, myriad of consequences for doing so simply isn’t freedom (not in any worthwhile sense) - if it were, why aren’t you homeless? I’m not suggesting for a moment that we’re all free.
It’s the difference between largely pointless negative freedoms, and meaningful positive freedoms.
Yea, I mean you’re not particularly free if you can’t sleep anywhere without either drunk people assaulting you or a land owner kicking you out, or if you need to constantly worry about finding electrical outlets just to keep your phone charged or worry about finding a tap or water fountain to get water. And you’re never able to eat actually pleasant food because you can’t even access a cooker or even a microwave/toaster and you almost certainly can’t afford food that is prepared for you.
I can only imagine their image of being homeless is having one of those vans that cost like $40k USD to kit out with pretty much everything you would have in a house… in which case yea I guess that would be pretty liberating but you should probably specify that if it’s what you mean.
Not all homeless people live on the sidewalk of SF, some live in the woods in a tent somewhat content just out of society’s way to try to deal with shit. Source: done that.
This is one of the most ridiculously privileged things I’ve ever read
It’s the correct take if…
You think freedom is not having anyone tell you what you can’t do.
You think homeless people don’t constantly get told what they can’t do
You don’t think freedom is being free to live the life you want.
In other words, someone dumped in the middle of the Sahara without food or water, and a pair of broken legs will just love being the freest person on earth until their death in a few hours.
I think homeless people feel free because they are unburdened by the pressures that society puts on all of us. You’re probably just so used to the burden, having never lived without it, it would be unfamiliar to not carry that weight.
I did not propose an alternative, just that, we are not free. Its a lie we tell ourselves.
Freedom to die, suffering while there’s (as far as you claim - I disagree) no-one to tell you what to do isn’t freedom. Freedom to live the way you want is freedom.
I’m well aware of the pressures that have been put upon me, but ignoring them and suffering the incredible, myriad of consequences for doing so simply isn’t freedom (not in any worthwhile sense) - if it were, why aren’t you homeless? I’m not suggesting for a moment that we’re all free.
It’s the difference between largely pointless negative freedoms, and meaningful positive freedoms.
Yea, I mean you’re not particularly free if you can’t sleep anywhere without either drunk people assaulting you or a land owner kicking you out, or if you need to constantly worry about finding electrical outlets just to keep your phone charged or worry about finding a tap or water fountain to get water. And you’re never able to eat actually pleasant food because you can’t even access a cooker or even a microwave/toaster and you almost certainly can’t afford food that is prepared for you.
I can only imagine their image of being homeless is having one of those vans that cost like $40k USD to kit out with pretty much everything you would have in a house… in which case yea I guess that would be pretty liberating but you should probably specify that if it’s what you mean.
Not all homeless people live on the sidewalk of SF, some live in the woods in a tent somewhat content just out of society’s way to try to deal with shit. Source: done that.
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I’ve been homeless, and they’re completely wrong
So have I, so I guess we can agree to disagree
Your experience is not the norm. Poverty is not freeing, it’s strangling.
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