My pain isn’t the knowledge of death, it’s the experience of life and I feel like sleeping outdoors, having to kill to eat etc. Wouldn’t be as pleasant of an experience as say eating a bowl of chili and watching a movie before crawling into a comfy bed
Also, when I step on my cat’s foot it meows like it hurts, not sure what you’re saying tbh not being snarky just confused what kind of pain do animals not experience? Depression, trauma etc?
Most injuries in the wild will lead to death quickly. Any kind of broken limb means no hunting and makes for easier prey. So not the most direct point initially, but the point was that the pain typically doesn’t last long before starvation or death by a predator. So it doesn’t hurt long before death comes. We drag it out as a society with medical support, familiar connections with people, and sharing news of atrocities at no benefit to us. I’m not saying one is better, I just feel one has a much shorter term of pain
I get where you’re coming from but still beg to differ. Sure, the suffering of a broken leg may end sooner for an animal because death but what about the life without comfort that proceeded that energy? The savage wild where everything seems to want to murder you? Going without shelter, food etc? Meanwhile even in major poverty humans tend to have some form of shelter, some food, some support, friends, maybe benefits from the government etc.
Even people in prison have it better than animals and I’m not sure how dying faster = better life? Sure, it sucks (for some) that life is drawn out while others (especially the rich) live long happy lives enjoying every minute of it?
Not saying I don’t understand where you’re coming from just seems oversimplified to say they have it easier because they die faster
My pain isn’t the knowledge of death, it’s the experience of life and I feel like sleeping outdoors, having to kill to eat etc. Wouldn’t be as pleasant of an experience as say eating a bowl of chili and watching a movie before crawling into a comfy bed
Also, when I step on my cat’s foot it meows like it hurts, not sure what you’re saying tbh not being snarky just confused what kind of pain do animals not experience? Depression, trauma etc?
Most injuries in the wild will lead to death quickly. Any kind of broken limb means no hunting and makes for easier prey. So not the most direct point initially, but the point was that the pain typically doesn’t last long before starvation or death by a predator. So it doesn’t hurt long before death comes. We drag it out as a society with medical support, familiar connections with people, and sharing news of atrocities at no benefit to us. I’m not saying one is better, I just feel one has a much shorter term of pain
I get where you’re coming from but still beg to differ. Sure, the suffering of a broken leg may end sooner for an animal because death but what about the life without comfort that proceeded that energy? The savage wild where everything seems to want to murder you? Going without shelter, food etc? Meanwhile even in major poverty humans tend to have some form of shelter, some food, some support, friends, maybe benefits from the government etc.
Even people in prison have it better than animals and I’m not sure how dying faster = better life? Sure, it sucks (for some) that life is drawn out while others (especially the rich) live long happy lives enjoying every minute of it?
Not saying I don’t understand where you’re coming from just seems oversimplified to say they have it easier because they die faster