That’s a fair point because there isn’t another proposal. Except mine which is a one state solution where they all get access to their fscking holy sites and it actually becomes the Middle East’s only democracy instead of democracy theater propped up by apartheid.
The problem is that if the resulting state is a democracy with equal rights for Israelis and Palestinians, Israel will no longer be a Jewish state. This is the reason why I believe a democratic Palestine, with control of all Israeli and Palestinian territories, equal rights and protections, rule of law, separation of church and state, an independent judiciary, and a system of checks and balances, would be the best solution to this problem. However, neither Israelis nor Palestinians have shown to be particularly accepting of a democratic, one-state solution, so I’m not getting my hopes up.
The problem is religion being the founding basis for the Israeli state, and the solution is separating religion from the administration of the state.
The problem is
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Israel will no longer be a Jewish state.
Yep. You hit it on the head. This is their problem. And they seem to prefer being evil and insecure over not being a Jewish state. Which is why a lot of people say “fuck them.”
They’ll have to decide if they want to be a Jewish homeland and secure, pluralistic democracy, or a “Jewish state.” They can’t have it all.
Right now they’re pretending to have it all through constant war and apartheid. I can’t believe they’ve subjected themselves to so much of this. Let alone the Palestinians.
If their priority is to be a Jewish state, they need to stop crying about Arabs letting Islam run their states, and stop bragging about being a democracy. They’re just another Middle East theocracy with a different style of funny hat.
Okay, so if a two-state plan is the “old” policy solution what is the new, progressive one?
Admit that the project of establishing a democratic Jewish state has failed, and try to salvage a democratic state out of the rubble.
That’s a fair point because there isn’t another proposal. Except mine which is a one state solution where they all get access to their fscking holy sites and it actually becomes the Middle East’s only democracy instead of democracy theater propped up by apartheid.
The problem is that if the resulting state is a democracy with equal rights for Israelis and Palestinians, Israel will no longer be a Jewish state. This is the reason why I believe a democratic Palestine, with control of all Israeli and Palestinian territories, equal rights and protections, rule of law, separation of church and state, an independent judiciary, and a system of checks and balances, would be the best solution to this problem. However, neither Israelis nor Palestinians have shown to be particularly accepting of a democratic, one-state solution, so I’m not getting my hopes up.
The problem is religion being the founding basis for the Israeli state, and the solution is separating religion from the administration of the state.
Yep. You hit it on the head. This is their problem. And they seem to prefer being evil and insecure over not being a Jewish state. Which is why a lot of people say “fuck them.”
They’ll have to decide if they want to be a Jewish homeland and secure, pluralistic democracy, or a “Jewish state.” They can’t have it all.
Right now they’re pretending to have it all through constant war and apartheid. I can’t believe they’ve subjected themselves to so much of this. Let alone the Palestinians.
If their priority is to be a Jewish state, they need to stop crying about Arabs letting Islam run their states, and stop bragging about being a democracy. They’re just another Middle East theocracy with a different style of funny hat.
The problem is less there’s no Jewish state, and more that a Muslim majority will not lead to a country that is accepting of other religions.
One Palestinian state and Israel can fuck off to wherever seems to be popular on lemmy.