I wouldn’t expect you to understand statistics, but 1 per year versus 620 is noise ya jabroni.
2023 - 1 so far…
2022 - 2
2021 - 3
2020 - 2
So even after letting you move the goal-post from NEVER… you moved it to 1 per year… and STILL got it wrong even though I gave you the source.
But that’s not the point I was even trying to make… The homicide rate in the UK was virtually unaffected for each weapons ban enacted. All that’s happened is that murders that would have been conducted via gun, just happen in other ways now. Also keep in mind that nearly all of the “western” world has been on a downtrend at the same rate for a long while now on homicides/murder/violent crime.
UK still has shotguns, but no hand guns or semi automatic rifles.
This law created a new market for “long-barrelled revolvers” and “long-barrelled pistols”,
Rifles…
UK law does not provide a statutory definition for a “rifle”.
I’m starting to think you might not even know the laws in your own country… Forget the USA…
There have been no mass killings on the scale of Dunblaine or Hungerford since banning those weapons.
Dunblaine
1996 - 15 injured 18 dead.
Hungerford
1987 - 15 injured 17 dead
Nothing since 1996 on that scale? You sure? Did you read anything?
2 June 2010
Cumbria, England
13 dead 11 injured.
Forget that the original firearms act of Britain was set in 1968. So it all happened while guns were banned… everything since then has been amendments to the act (1988, 1997 were amendments). There were also other legislation in 2006 (so before 2010 mass shooting), 2012, and 2019.
But please carry on with your denial
Talk about denial… You’re denying your own laws/history… Fuck me man… I can’t help you.
Well done, you’ve managed to find the three worst crimes of the last 50 years. About a week’s worth of deaths in America. Do you think you’re proving your point by highlighting how rare mass shootings are in the UK?
Can you join the dots now and see that when gun ownership is restricted there are far fewer shootings?
America’s fucked, there’s more guns than people, there’s no way back, just thoughts and prayers and fear.
Well done, you’ve managed to find the three worst crimes of the last 50 years.
Dude… are you capable of following a conversation? YOU posted the first 2… and said there’s been nothing since then. I showed you one other that was after that is the same scale.
If you can’t even follow your own conversation you truly are hopeless.
Can you join the dots now and see that when gun ownership is restricted there are far fewer shootings?
Doesn’t matter. UK proved that you can’t stop all gun related deaths. And even accounting for that UK overall homicide rate hasn’t decreased any faster than any other “western” country INCLUDING the USA.
America’s fucked, there’s more guns than people, there’s no way back, just thoughts and prayers and fear.
No fear here. Just idiot who project it from overseas it seems.
Doesn’t matter. UK proved that you can’t stop all gun related deaths.
So it’s all or nothing? 🤡
1/620
0.16%
Even accounting for population it’s still blatantly obvious to anyone with half a brain that guns = shooting
And the US knife killing rate is still higher than the US. Just a bit more murdery I suppose. But then us Europeans shipped all the religious nutters out to the US for a reason
Nope I haven’t… Been all over Germany and Poland, also incidentally to Romania and Ireland in a very limited fashion. But I did eventually find an answer to my own question…
an estimated 1.4 million in 33,000 gangs in 2011.[1][2][3] About 900,000 gang members lived “within local communities across the country”, and about 147,000 were in U.S. prisons or jails in 2009.[4]
Which translates to about… 42 per 10000 people are in a gang here in USA…
So a 5-6times increase in homicide lines up basically perfectly.
Edit: whoops used the wrong number initially… it’s much higher…
2023 - 1 so far… 2022 - 2 2021 - 3 2020 - 2
So even after letting you move the goal-post from NEVER… you moved it to 1 per year… and STILL got it wrong even though I gave you the source.
But that’s not the point I was even trying to make… The homicide rate in the UK was virtually unaffected for each weapons ban enacted. All that’s happened is that murders that would have been conducted via gun, just happen in other ways now. Also keep in mind that nearly all of the “western” world has been on a downtrend at the same rate for a long while now on homicides/murder/violent crime.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_the_United_Kingdom#Legal_classification
You sure about that captain?
Pistols…
Rifles…
I’m starting to think you might not even know the laws in your own country… Forget the USA…
Dunblaine
1996 - 15 injured 18 dead.
Hungerford
1987 - 15 injured 17 dead
Nothing since 1996 on that scale? You sure? Did you read anything? 2 June 2010
Cumbria, England 13 dead 11 injured.
Forget that the original firearms act of Britain was set in 1968. So it all happened while guns were banned… everything since then has been amendments to the act (1988, 1997 were amendments). There were also other legislation in 2006 (so before 2010 mass shooting), 2012, and 2019.
Well done, you’ve managed to find the three worst crimes of the last 50 years. About a week’s worth of deaths in America. Do you think you’re proving your point by highlighting how rare mass shootings are in the UK?
Can you join the dots now and see that when gun ownership is restricted there are far fewer shootings?
America’s fucked, there’s more guns than people, there’s no way back, just thoughts and prayers and fear.
Dude… are you capable of following a conversation? YOU posted the first 2… and said there’s been nothing since then. I showed you one other that was after that is the same scale.
If you can’t even follow your own conversation you truly are hopeless.
Doesn’t matter. UK proved that you can’t stop all gun related deaths. And even accounting for that UK overall homicide rate hasn’t decreased any faster than any other “western” country INCLUDING the USA.
No fear here. Just idiot who project it from overseas it seems.
So it’s all or nothing? 🤡
1/620
0.16%
Even accounting for population it’s still blatantly obvious to anyone with half a brain that guns = shooting
And the US knife killing rate is still higher than the US. Just a bit more murdery I suppose. But then us Europeans shipped all the religious nutters out to the US for a reason
Ah yes… cherry pick the statement.
Literally followed right after. Clown harder.
Lol, the US homicide rate is 7x the UK. Explain that
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
Man, you’re funny. Trying to twist 620% more shootings as what exactly?
Sure… Gangs and drug trafficking.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_population
Specifically from Central and South Americas. The SHEER number difference between the HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS vs how many you got over there in the UK?
Never been to Glasgow then?
Nope I haven’t… Been all over Germany and Poland, also incidentally to Romania and Ireland in a very limited fashion. But I did eventually find an answer to my own question…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangs_in_the_United_Kingdom
Which translates to about 5 per 10000 people are in a gang in Britain…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_population
Which translates to about… 42 per 10000 people are in a gang here in USA…
So a 5-6times increase in homicide lines up basically perfectly.
Edit: whoops used the wrong number initially… it’s much higher…