• @LemmysMum
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    11 months ago

    And I’m saying you’re wrong. Terrorists don’t get to blow up social infrastructure because they don’t get what they want. And you seem to miss the part where I’m one of those artists.

    You’re the sort to tear down babylon or burn the library of alexandria because they stored a copy of your work for the posterity and benefit of humanity.

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      I didn’t miss that part. You’re free to do with your art whatever you want.

      But just because you are okay with your art getting repurposed for whatever doesn’t mean others have to be.
      And if the library were to store a copy of my book it’d come with royalties and credit, unlike whatever is going on with image generators.

      Now if libraries were to stock an illegal copy of my book, I’d get pretty pissed about that. If they did that to all of the other writers as well I wouldn’t even have to burn it down because the lawyers would do it for me.
      But lone artists on the internet don’t have a massive publisher to back them up.

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        Why do you hate libraries? Does DaVinci get royalties when I replicate his engineering work?

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          Please quote me the part where I said or implied I hate libraries.

          • @LemmysMum
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            You’ve been defending people’s right to burn them down all thread.

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              I have, at no point, implied legitimate businesses/organizations should be burned down.

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                No you implied that other structures of communal data storage should be burned down; but for some reason you disingenuously disassociate those to others because of some self-perceived definition over what is legitimate knowledge.

                AI is a librarian, datasets are the library. You want to set fire to the stacks, fuck everyone else’s hard work.

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                  If AI were a librarian I’d be able to go there and find the works of whatever artists they kept copies of. Last I checked, that is not the case. Are you sure you know how these machine learning algorithms work?

                  If the AI is set fire to, all of the artists still keep their individual works or art on whatever websites they were before they got scraped.

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                    If you can’t define their individual works are they really there?

                    I can read and absorb Nietzsche, yet you won’t find his books in my head.

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          And no, DaVinci doesn’t. That’s why copyright expires and items go into the public domain after a set amount of years.

          A “set” amount of years massive corporations have been all too happy to push back, but that’s another conversation.

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            So you’re OK with burning down libraries as long as it’s for Capitalism, makes more sense…

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              I’m OK with libraries getting sued for ripping off writers/artists.

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                You don’t know how libraries work, just like you don’t understand AI.

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                  Nah I think you’re the one who doesn’t know

                  • @LemmysMum
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                    Don’t conflate your ignorance with other people’s knowledge. You think, because you don’t know.