Yet, you have also tacitly defended, as the form of system you most prefer, a system in which one small group holds power.
I’ve done no such thing. Which small group are you imagining I’m advocating for being in charge of everything?
issues identified as consequent of one small group holding power.
Identified by your own faulty logic. It’s extremely reductive to pretend that how many people have power is in itself the only problem rather than for example how that power is (ab)used and how little is done to hold those people accountable.
The lack of social mobility for poor and otherwise marginalised people is one of the main reasons for the concentration of power. That and people like you ignoring any part of the problem that isn’t directly related to a tiny portion of the causality.
I’ve done no such thing. Which small group are you imagining I’m advocating for being in charge of everything?
You clarified the various kinds of processes you consider as more versus less favorable for how individuals would enter into positions of power.
If processes exist for how individuals may enter into positions of power, then the individuals who have entered into positions of power, by such processes, constitute a group who holds power over society, and that, compared to the whole mass of society, is small.
Therefore, you have tacitly defended a system in which one small group holds power over the rest of society.
It’s extremely reductive to pretend that how many…
You are distorting my language, simply to make it assert what you feel inclined to negate.
The challenge, which you have avoided, is to consider critically the benefit, if any, that one group having power over another confers to the group that is disempowered.
There may be a more direct path toward identifying the essence of disagreement.
Let’s make it simple.
Considered abstractly, a system may take any one of three forms…
One group holds power, and the group holding power exacerbates problems for those who are disempowered.
One group holds power, and the group holding power does not exacerbate problems for those who are disempowered.
Power is not held by a particular group.
You seem to have implied two assertions…
The preferred system is (2).
Among those systems that are in fact possible is (2).
Would you please justify one or both of the assertions that you seem to have insinuated?
No. You’re either not arguing in good faith or showing yourself incapable of appreciating vital complexities. Either way, it’s not worth my time and effort to continue down this road. Have the day you deserve.
Is a good faith argument dismissing any idea with which you disagree, by invoking a single word, and then declining to provide the counterargument you have implied is trivial?
Which vital complexity am I incapable of appreciating?
Is a good faith argument a response based on an ad hominem?
I’ve done no such thing. Which small group are you imagining I’m advocating for being in charge of everything?
Identified by your own faulty logic. It’s extremely reductive to pretend that how many people have power is in itself the only problem rather than for example how that power is (ab)used and how little is done to hold those people accountable.
The lack of social mobility for poor and otherwise marginalised people is one of the main reasons for the concentration of power. That and people like you ignoring any part of the problem that isn’t directly related to a tiny portion of the causality.
Seems about true.
You clarified the various kinds of processes you consider as more versus less favorable for how individuals would enter into positions of power.
If processes exist for how individuals may enter into positions of power, then the individuals who have entered into positions of power, by such processes, constitute a group who holds power over society, and that, compared to the whole mass of society, is small.
Therefore, you have tacitly defended a system in which one small group holds power over the rest of society.
You are distorting my language, simply to make it assert what you feel inclined to negate.
The challenge, which you have avoided, is to consider critically the benefit, if any, that one group having power over another confers to the group that is disempowered.
There may be a more direct path toward identifying the essence of disagreement.
Let’s make it simple.
Considered abstractly, a system may take any one of three forms…
You seem to have implied two assertions…
Would you please justify one or both of the assertions that you seem to have insinuated?
No, let’s not. Oversimplification was your mistake from the start.
Ridiculous.
Nope, because I never claimed either thing. I’m not going to validate your strawman argument by acting as if it’s logically sound.
You’re a more patient man than me. I would have stopped acknowledging that guy like two replies ago.
You say patient, I say impulse control issues making me bad at not replying when it’s clearly not worth the time and effort any more 😄
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If so, then it should be trivial for you to show an alternative.
Please do so.
No. You’re either not arguing in good faith or showing yourself incapable of appreciating vital complexities. Either way, it’s not worth my time and effort to continue down this road. Have the day you deserve.
Is a good faith argument dismissing any idea with which you disagree, by invoking a single word, and then declining to provide the counterargument you have implied is trivial?
Which vital complexity am I incapable of appreciating?
Is a good faith argument a response based on an ad hominem?
You are being immensely hypocritical.
I said have the day you deserve.
Sure. Enjoy making yourself seem extremely clever simply by asserting yourself as the only one capable of “appreciating vital complexities”.
Expecting me to keep engaging after saying I don’t want to just because you’re demanding it? Yes, that IS ridiculous.
The only reason I’m still answering at all is because I have poor impulse control. Please stop.