• @Sgt_choke_n_strokeOP
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    41 year ago

    fix the household

    Nice dog whistle for systematic problems with capitalism

      • @Sgt_choke_n_strokeOP
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        211 year ago

        easy and cheap ways to buy guns

        create a system with no hope to move up in life when you’re poor

        have a news media that creates paranoia, to sell ads

        Yea it’s sooooo weird “How the FUCK is captialism the cause of mass shootings lol”

        • @[email protected]
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          Those things aren’t exclusive to or indicative of a capitalistic society. The latter two reasons you describe also exist in authoritarian socialist and communist countries, yet those don’t lead to mass shootings.

          In fact, there are capitalist countries that have easy access to guns that don’t experience mass shootings on the scale of the US. Look at Canada, for example, who rank 7th in gun ownership per capita but have experienced four total mass shootings compared to 101 in the USA. (sauce: https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/mass-shootings-by-country/ and https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country)

          I don’t think capitalism is the best system, especially not on its own, but none of the responses I’ve gotten have argued why capitalism is the cause of mass shootings. There are way too many cultural and historical factors involved to say that it’s exclusively the fault of the economic structure of the US.

          You guys can all downvote as much as you want but it seems no one actually has anything more to say than “capitalism bad” so they harvest some internet points.

          • @Nudding
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            11 year ago

            The nra is allowed to “lobby” the government to tell them all how great guns are. How do you retards not see that’s a problem with capitalism lol.

            • @[email protected]
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              01 year ago

              Is a government caving in to the interests of the rich exclusive to capitalism?

              I think you’d probably have a more sound argument if you spent less time calling people retards and instead actually argued your point. Unless you really don’t know why you hate capitalism other than that it’s the spooky boogeyman for lemmy users.

              • @Nudding
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                01 year ago

                Is a government caving in to the interests of the rich exclusive to capitalism?

                I don’t know, I haven’t tried the other sorts of economic organization! Let’s find out, yeah?

        • PatFusty
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          -101 year ago

          You guys use the term capitalism like if it was the boogeyman. Its just not relevant here, all of those things can happen without capitalism. Dont shoehorn a topic you barely understand

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            People that critique capitalism tend to do it a lot because it drives a substantial portion of human activity right now. Capitalism is probably the primary driver of all violence in the US so it seems relevant. Under a socialist system, there could be lower levels of isolation and inequality, no incentive for gun companies to increase profits so they wouldn’t market their guns to every person in America, etc. The defense industry is massive and tied directly to the issue of mass shooters. And when you say ‘fix the household,’ what does that mean other than dismantle capitalism?

      • @[email protected]
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        121 year ago

        Because unchecked capitalism means paying people as little as possible to maximize profits, which means people are underpaid which causes undue stress at home which leads to bad shit happening.

        • @[email protected]
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          71 year ago

          People are like “ooh it’s so complicated everything is complex, you can’t sum up issues in one or two sentences.” But I can’t really argue with this, like shouldn’t this be obvious to everyone? People are stressed, we can’t afford to live, it seems like our world is going to die in a few decades, all directly tied to our socioeconomic paradigm of capitalism. Of course people are going to start freaking out.

        • @[email protected]
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          01 year ago

          Are you implying that people aren’t stressed outside of a capitalistic society? Just because capitalism leads some to high levels of stress doesn’t mean nothing else does.

      • @[email protected]
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        51 year ago

        Rampant profiteering off of the backs of laborers for the sake of the few. You think those laborers have the ability to maintain a happy and balanced home life after being exploited by capitalists?

        • @[email protected]
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          -11 year ago

          Workers are exploited in nearly all forms of economic structure. How does profiteering lead to mass shootings?

          • @[email protected]
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            21 year ago

            If you can’t connect rampant class related abuse to mental health issues, and then to violence, you have no fucking idea about anything regarding the human condition. In fact your breath is starting to smell of boot leather.

            • @[email protected]
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              Brother you’re literally not arguing why capitalism is the cause of this still. All you have is personal attacks and loose correlations. Class abuse is not exclusive to capitalism. Mental health issues are not exclusive to capitalism.

              Weak af.

      • @Leviathan
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        Tons of lobbying money goes into making sure those laws never happen, shootings cause a rise in firearm sales. Rinse, repeat. Any talk of well regulated militia bullshit is just lip service to the useful idiots who keep them rich.

          • @Leviathan
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            21 year ago

            Is there a system outside of capitalism where always keeping sales peaking is a priority? Where profits are prioritized over human life?

          • @Nudding
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            11 year ago

            Not exclusive, but inevitable.