• sab
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      If you’re going to equate the dead children in Gaza with Hamas, you might as well say this lady “earned” it on account of the policies of the Israeli far right.

      There’s no such thing as “earning” the mass murder of civilians.

        • @[email protected]
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          191 year ago

          Hamas has kept power for almost two decades without an election, of which over 50% of the population of Gaza was too young to vote in, on account of them not being born.

          Innocent people are dying because Israel propped up the terrorist Hamas to prevent a real, peaceful government from forming and bringing forward a two country solution.

          • @[email protected]
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            -111 year ago

            And no one cared about the terrorist regime - especially those who don’t have to live under Hamas and yell “Free Palestine”. Everyone liked Hamas well enough as long as they kill some jews once in a while.

            • Bigmouse
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              I don’t know man. Everyone in my family that is politically active dislikes Fatah, especially Abbas, but they LOATHE Hamas. There are palestinian circles that curse Hamas for bringing about a second Naqba. It’s not as black and white as it appears.

              It’s just that Gaza is a special case. It’s poor and miserable, hosting plenty fertile ground for extremist indoctrination. Have you ever tried arguing with someone from such a background about means of liberation and their justification? That’s a mighty complicated discussion.

                • @TheTetrapod
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                  So you’re saying that the Israeli populace is responsible for the systematic oppression of the Palestinian people? I’m not sure I’d go that far myself, but I respect your opinion.

                  At the end of the day, Hamas did an awful thing at the beginning of this month, but guerilla warfare has no rules. When you’re fighting against USA-lite with rocks and Iranian cast-offs, you don’t get to fight fair. I don’t think they should’ve committed the specific attack that they did, but attacks of opportunity are all they have left to fight the Apartheid state next door.

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                  people share consequences with their government regardless of whether it’s a democracy or whether they personally support said government.

                  So Hamas is justified in killing Israeli citizens just as the IDF is justified in killing Gazan citizens?

                  Weird watching you twist your brain into knots to find ways to only condemn one side while praising the other.

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                    Israeli civilians clearly have been sharing consequences for the actions of their state. What do you think the attack was about?

                    The difference here is that one side has been constantly provoking and the other side has been constantly trying to create safety for themselves. The earliest conflicts between Jewish farmers and Arab farmers, the earliest massacres in mandatory Palestine, were instigated by Palestinian Arabs. Palestinian Arab nationalism made a one state solution not viable, and Palestinians declared war on their Israeli neighbors because they didn’t like the borders of a two-state solution. They got their asses handed to them. Then they tried it again in 1967, once again getting their asses handed to them. They have constantly been aggressors who refused to make a viable peace and acknowledge their realpolitik situation. Instead, they have opted for terrorist Guerrilla attacks against civilians for the past 50 years as their situation grows ever worse.

                    But yeah if you ignore all context and causality both sides are the same 🙄

        • @bl4ckblooc
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          71 year ago

          Israel didn’t start this? Have you been under a rock since WWII ended?

    • @[email protected]
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      101 year ago

      Hamas earned this, not the rest of the innocent Palestinians who never had a choice on who represented them. The innocent Israeli citizens didn’t earn this either.

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        They probably should have left long ago when the Egyptian border was open for anyone who wanted to leave.

        • TheDankHold
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          The crossing that Israel bombed? You do know why it was closed right?

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            “Long ago.”

            It was closed because IDF attacked a tunnel under the wall near the crossing. It was open before then and it has been reopened since. Unfortunately, Egypt only lets out ~300/day so it’s probably unlikely that refugees are lucky enough to leave at present. Egypt cares more about not destabilizing themselves like other neighboring countries did than they do about Palestinian refugees.