I don’t remember what caused the Voat’s origin, except it involved Reddit HQ. And then it went under in 2020.

What’s different about this time and with Lemmy to make it a feasible alternative to Reddit? Is it random chance?

    • @entropicshart
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      Honestly - I agreed with the first paragraph of your comment and was going to upvote, but all the edits made me reconsider; this is a place to share our thoughts, not worry about how many people up/down-ticked our comment.

      Throw out a thought and forget the “karma”!

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      The reasons were less tangible before. Taking away popular apps will have a much bigger impact than some subreddit drama.

        • aeternum
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          How many times have you gone to reddit today?

          None.

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              Should we care that other people still use reddit?

              Do you have to chose one or the other?

              Why are people so hell bent to “take over” Reddit?

              I found an alternative in Kbin and Lemmy that suits my needs and focuses on user experience and growing communities instead of growing the pockets of a handful of people.

              I decide to not use Reddit anymore because the upper echelon can go fuck themselves.

              Is it so weird to have a set of values and stop using a service/product, because they cross the boundaries one has set for themselves?

              I have used Reddit for more than a decade and I haven’t missed it all.

              I am here because I enjoy it and not because I have a deeper desire for Reddit to evaporate out of nowhere.

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                  It is Random chance.

                  I have read your comments;

                  “I think it’s probably doomed. It’ll never overtake reddit. But, it’ll be a nice, quiet, alternative.”

                  No one knows if it is doomed.

                  You have to start somewhere but you can’t expect a platform that has seen an huge influx of users the past weeks to immediately operate on the scale of what Reddit does.

                  “I humbly apologize for my personal, speculative, opinion about the unknowable future. The downvotes have made me realize my math was wrong, my opinion is wrong, and I am wrong. My corrected opinion is that Lemmy will overtake Meta, Mastadon, Twitter, and Google (wtf is reddit!?), and every upvote will be worth $1000, making everyone rich! Or, we can have fun guessing, and wait and see how things go. I hope they go well!”

                  Who is claiming the above?

                  The fun thing is that Mastodon is in your list and before the fuckery with Twitter it didn’t really have traction.

                  Why can’t lemmy/Kbin be the same in a year from now?

                  The problem for Reddit, is that it made people actually look for alternatives. It is stupid for a competitor to make it’s customers aware of the competition, but Reddit did exactly that.

                  Maybe it flops, maybe it stays “niche”, maybe it explodes in popularity.

                  I think it is indeed random chance and just being at the right place at the right time.

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              What are you on about? Yeah obviously people still visit Reddit, it was stupid of you to ask in the first place. I thought this kind of idiocy would’ve stayed at Reddit.

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      I think it’s probably doomed. It’ll never overtake reddit. But, it’ll be a nice, quiet, alternative.

      Why is it doomed? I think if it becomes a small alternative to reddit, it’s a win. Killing reddit was never on the table - it’s just too big and mainstream for that to happen (see Facebook and Twitter). Will it be more successful than Voat? If we can sustain the community/activity that we have now, then yes.

      Here’s a quick litmus test for all the downvoters. How many times have you gone to reddit today?

      I’ll go over that. It’s probably a week since I last went to reddit (this includes teddit and those other ways to go there). I don’t even have an account or reddit app anymore. All the reddit news I get are from here and discord. Last time i went there was to delete my accounts and use Power Delete.

      • @grue
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        Killing reddit was never on the table - it’s just too big and mainstream for that to happen (see Facebook and Twitter).

        Sure it is (see Digg).

    • gk99
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      edit: I was part of this attempted migration, not the hate one. This isn’t the first blackout for reddit being shitty.

      It’s the first one where average users were affected beyond the blackout, though. Other than the alt-righters nobody wanted there and weren’t going to follow when they left. Patriots.win isn’t a real community either, it’s just constant Trump, Biden, and “democrats bad” content.

        • 1984
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          You know third party apps can’t use the polls feature, right? Right?

        • Joe
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          The blackouts showed that the majority of people actually contributing to the site use third party apps

    • DaniAlexander
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      I suspect your downvotes are due to your ridiculous all or nothing speculation. No one can base the future on what’s happening right now. Yet you’re speculating it’s already failed. What a shit take.

      We don’t know if the fediverse will succeed yet on a larger scale. Sometimes migration is instant, like with digg, sometimes it takes time, like with Facebook exodus which is continuing as i type this. Not to mention people weren’t prepared for this migration so none of the tools to make it a replacement have been in place. But now people are actively working on building out the community. Maybe we’ll know in a couple years if this is a successful endeavor on a Reddit type scale. But we don’t know yet.

    • @Mereo
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      I used the internet since 1998 and I remember when Reddit was this little known site with not a lot of users. It took years for Reddit to get where it is right now.cl Lemmy will likely take that trajectory or perhaps, be a second Reddit but with better discussions.

      For Lemmy, if all goes well, will take years to have a significant amount of active users. Perhaps subreddits will slowly deteriorate, pushing more people toward Lemmy… No one knows what the future holds…

    • HelixDab
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      I haven’t logged into reddit since overwriting and deleting 12 years of content. So, I dunno man. I also haven’t logged into Twitter since Musk took over.

      I think that you’re right, that reddit won’t die. But I think that things like this, if not this exact thing, are going to be reasonable alternatives for many people.

    • phazed09
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      Yeah if I recall correctly the right wing hardcore guys really only took over Voat after the Reddit Migration guys died down.

    • refugeered
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      I do not know how to solve this but the disagree = down vote thing has gone crazy. It seems to have become next to impossible to have a civil discussion online nowadays about an alternate opinions. It feels like everyone just wants to have their beliefs confirmed and never have their opinions questioned.

      • @dustyData
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        Or maybe up and downvotes are meaningless and karma has no value. I think it’s a way of polling opinion on a topic. Lemmy is not Reddit. Users have no accumulated karma, downvotes don’t hide comments and Post’s default comment sort is by New.

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          People are really bent out of shape with others disagreeing with them. You aren’t being silenced, you’re being polled and that’s not a problem.

          Now if you are harassed because of it, that’s a different subject than a simple downvoted. That’s why I love the transparency here

      • @assassin_aragorn
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        I’ve had plenty of civil discussions online where I had an alternate opinion from the zeitgeist. On Reddit.

        Generally speaking, if you aren’t alt right scum, people are agreeable. If you believe people should be allowed to live how they want as long as it isn’t hurting people, and nobody should be treated differently because of an inherent, born characteristic, people may not be happy with your opinion but they’ll at least listen to you.

    • BlueForestDev
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      tbh the culture here is reddit in its purest form right now. once they start sanitizing everything here again I’m out. One opinion allowed ONLY and if you dont align you’re a NAZI and FAR RIGHT TROLL

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          Perfect. ‘Downvote’ me too so you can really show it to me how WRONG I am.

          If you want to see what happens if this culture permeates here just look at Mastodon. Negative growth, barely any interaction and it’s the same few people shouting into the void. I checked some mutuals who proudly announced they’d move to Mastodon and most haven’t posted anything this year. Still posting regularly on Twitter tho :clownface:
          A lot of users here are the same, ‘move’ here to show they’re protesting and then stop posting in a few weeks or months and back to reddit.
          Some clown mod made over 50 magazines/subs on kbin. Hasnt posted 1 comment since a little over a week. Bio reads: ‘Proud owner of xxx communities.’ lol

          If there is no unique culture/point to this platform and it’s just reddit 2.0 then people will simply go back to reddit.

      • @[email protected]
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        Having been called fascist, troll, sealion, and all manner of insults because I dared disagree – Yeah, you’re totally right.

        People gotta learn to deal with speech they dislike or disagree with. That’s the beauty of democracy.

        • @Falmarri
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          This is the least self aware post ever. You should learn to deal with speech you dislike instead of complaining about being called a fascist