Family, myself, and the collective good that has allowed some like my friends with diabetes who would be dead without the efforts made by all to allow those who would have died otherwise a fair chance. Anyone capable of work has a moral obligation to assist in upkeep of a better society. The government doesn’t fear people sitting on their ass, they fear the ones willing to die before giving up their rights. It’s literally how history speaks of every successful government rebellion.
That’s the thing though, you can’t just sit on your ass, so the people most dedicated to that have to fight for the right haha. I agree though, everyone should work as hard as they can in the face of what is happening. Some people have different levels of what they can do while still being productive in their efforts, and I think that can look lazy sometimes to people. With too much strain or anxiety or whatever, a persons work could be counterproductive to the efforts they are trying to achieve. Sometimes doing nothing is the better option for a person’s situation.
Sure, but your proposed idea was to allow (in my perception of your explanation) literal shut ins who don’t provide ANYTHING be it entertainment, production, service, education etc, and just sit inside collecting a check while gaming or binging shows all day. That’s not useful to anyone least of all themselves from a health perspective, and becomes a cancerous drain in multiple ways. THAT disgusts me. I have no issue with giving it to someone like my friend who only works weekends taking care of mentally challenged kids for a center. He has awful back issues and the levels of labor that he can meet are very restricted. But he still offers something to the world, in the manner he can. That’s respectable and should be incentivized.
Well I don’t think most people should be doing that, I just believe the vast majority of people actually do want to do productive work, more than enough for society to function just fine if some people were shut-ins, I don’t think it’s a good thing to do and you’re right it’s bad for your health. We’ve had large societies long before the economic system we have now, and with technology, work that would take substantially longer in the past can be done more quickly with fewer people today.
Family, myself, and the collective good that has allowed some like my friends with diabetes who would be dead without the efforts made by all to allow those who would have died otherwise a fair chance. Anyone capable of work has a moral obligation to assist in upkeep of a better society. The government doesn’t fear people sitting on their ass, they fear the ones willing to die before giving up their rights. It’s literally how history speaks of every successful government rebellion.
That’s the thing though, you can’t just sit on your ass, so the people most dedicated to that have to fight for the right haha. I agree though, everyone should work as hard as they can in the face of what is happening. Some people have different levels of what they can do while still being productive in their efforts, and I think that can look lazy sometimes to people. With too much strain or anxiety or whatever, a persons work could be counterproductive to the efforts they are trying to achieve. Sometimes doing nothing is the better option for a person’s situation.
Sure, but your proposed idea was to allow (in my perception of your explanation) literal shut ins who don’t provide ANYTHING be it entertainment, production, service, education etc, and just sit inside collecting a check while gaming or binging shows all day. That’s not useful to anyone least of all themselves from a health perspective, and becomes a cancerous drain in multiple ways. THAT disgusts me. I have no issue with giving it to someone like my friend who only works weekends taking care of mentally challenged kids for a center. He has awful back issues and the levels of labor that he can meet are very restricted. But he still offers something to the world, in the manner he can. That’s respectable and should be incentivized.
Well I don’t think most people should be doing that, I just believe the vast majority of people actually do want to do productive work, more than enough for society to function just fine if some people were shut-ins, I don’t think it’s a good thing to do and you’re right it’s bad for your health. We’ve had large societies long before the economic system we have now, and with technology, work that would take substantially longer in the past can be done more quickly with fewer people today.