• @Syrc
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    411 months ago

    Moderate right wing people’s concerns are not listened to and instead they are defamed.

    I mean, for example? Because in Europe, Biden would be a “moderate right wing” person. Which concerns do they have that are actually “moderate” and don’t align with the current Democratic party line?

    • @SickPanda
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      -311 months ago

      alot of moderate right wing people are concerned about the behavior of immigrants. They tend to create parallel societies and refuse to integrate themselves. they also commit an increasing number of crimes. The German criminal statistics for example shows that immigrants commit more crimes than natives. Talking about this almost immediately grants you the “Nazi” status even though it’s a fact and has nothing to do with the ideology of the Nazis.

      the democrats and the Republicans are both corrupt and stupid. Trump and Biden are fossils which belong in a retirement home.

      • @Syrc
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        111 months ago

        The issue is how you choose to address that. The only solution I’ve seen thrown around is the usual “Build the wall/fly them back” which does seem a bit too Nazi-leaning.

        I don’t think there’s really much that we can do outside better law enforcement and maybe some social programs, anything else that comes to mind would basically be a straight-up violation of human rights.

        It’s kind of like how the left keeps (rightfully) complaining about economic inequality and billionaires, but when you ask for realistic solutions there’s really nothing besides the guillotine.

        • @SickPanda
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          -211 months ago

          Germany already has alot of social Programms and good law enforcement, the immigrants still misbehave. deporting immigrants which refuse to integrate themselves here and become criminal isn’t Nazi leaning. Nazis would kill them, steal their valuables and use their bodies to make products. (the nazis made soap out of the bones of the people in the concentration camps and lamp shades out of their skin) Moderate right wingers just don’t want them here, which I approve. calling someone a “Nazi” because they are done with immigrants behaving bad isn’t helping at all. They are right to criticize the behavior.

          Some days ago our chancellor said that we need to deport people who are not allowed to stay here by law and people literaly put his face on Hitlers portrait for that.

          Proof:

          That’s not the original image from the magazine, I’ve seen this here on lemmy made by a user.

          That guilitine thing is far left bullshit btw. The rich need to be forced by law to pay their fair share, not by violence.

          • @Syrc
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            211 months ago

            deporting immigrants which refuse to integrate themselves here and become criminal isn’t Nazi leaning.

            It kinda is. Also because if someone is actually a criminal it means they’re in jail and can’t harm anyone. If they aren’t it means they’re probably “criminals” by necessity, shoplifters and the likes. Definitely not acceptable behavior but also not something to deport people over. If more serious criminals are on the loose then we have a law enforcement issue.

            Plus, it seems like you’re talking about European centrist slander, which is very different from US centrist slander that was probably the point of the post.

            That guilitine thing is far left bullshit btw. The rich need to be forced by law to pay their fair share, not by violence.

            That was my point. The issue is reasonable, but the most common proposed solution is way too extremist, like with immigration.

            • @SickPanda
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              111 months ago

              It seems like we indeed had a misunderstanding. Well we don’t agree on the deporting stuff, but since we still seem to have common ground I’d suggest we call it a day. Have a good one mate