• @Syrc
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    Let alone an housing crisis (across Europe) where people aren’t unable to buy or rent anymore. (…) and obviously there’s the crazy ass inflation

    And is it that different from the housing crisis and inflation in the US? To me it seems like a pretty universal issue.

    We’re talking about countries that enact policies that end up taking cars, houses and people’s ability to own stuff. Ins’ that communism, even if you sell them as “making the environment better”?

    Uh, no…? Communism was about taking stuff from the rich, not from the ones that are already poor. And so far I only saw taxes, mind linking to these alleged house seizings? I don’t know laws all across Europe, but from what I’ve seen and read this seems pretty exaggerated.

    • @TCB13
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      Uh, no…? Communism was about taking stuff from the rich, not from the ones that are already poor.

      Nowadays communism in Europe is about obliterating what’s left of the middle class turning everyone into poor people. After all communism is about equality, and equally poor we all shall be.

      In the past years there were multiple attacks on home ownership and private property, the most notorious were the legal changed during the COVID time I told you about (no media fuzz but can be found as a law that I wont translate), the insolation issue and the last one was that about the forced rentals.

      One example, forced rentals: https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/2023-04-01/forced-rental-to-go-ahead-for-vacant-homes/76271

      Here is the other example: https://www.idealista.pt/en/news/legal-advice-in-portugal/2021/11/08/4731-can-portuguese-municipalities-compel-owners-to-carry-out-renovation-works-and#The+risks+of+non-compliance 

      All properties in Portugal must be properly maintained. We explain when and how municipalities can intervene in this process. If the owner does not comply with the obligation to rehabilitate the property, does not initiate the urbanistic operations determined by the municipality, or does not complete the urbanistic operations within the established deadlines, the municipal council can take administrative possession of the buildings and immediately execute the determined works.

      What more proof do you need?

      There’s an housing crisis yes, and guess what you can’t even build new houses, the govt will make it really hard or next to impossible with a shit show of required licenses, projects, inspections and taxes.

      • @Syrc
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        Nowadays communism in Europe is about obliterating what’s left of the middle class turning everyone into poor people. After all communism is about equality, and equally poor we all shall be.

        You’re literally making up the definition as you go. That’s not communism, that’s what the right wing thinks is communism.

        What more proof do you need?

        Those links literally specify it’s for unkept houses that haven’t been occupied in the past 2 years. It even excludes Vacation homes and homes of people that can’t physically occupy them.

        Doesn’t really add up that “they don’t have good houses because they’re poor”, poor people barely paid for their own house, let alone having two.

        I also read you can get the renovation expenses paid by the government and pay them back with income generated by the house, that seems a helpful procedure for everyone who isn’t just a space hoarder.

        Tell me if I misunderstood anything, because right now those two links definitely don’t prove that European governments are “obliterating the middle class”, unless you count neighborhood-controlling landlords as middle class.