r/The_Donald now on Lemmy - Lemmy Online
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It was banned on Reddit because it is racist, hatefull and spread Conspiracies. In my new community I expect the exclution of racist communities. It is easy now with defederation. Nazis can do whatever they want on their instances, but the instances I want to be part of should not amplify their shit and flush it into our timelines. The instance-admin of [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] did not reply to my message. Big instances seem not to defederate with them. The new TD may not be a success, the point is not to give Nazis a platform like it is happening now. Fans of TD are racists. Where are the instances that show face against racism? edit: to contact the admins: @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected]
  • @optissimaEnglish
    8•2 years ago

    There is one dirtier: capitalists.

      • @[email protected]English
        27•2 years ago

        If you think selling unregulated ice cream is the worst example of capitalist misdeeds you have a very limited imagination.

      • Black616AngelEnglish
        12•2 years ago

        Oh yeah, the whole climate change can be more or less traced back to managers only thinking about the next profits but let’s say, it’s only unregulated ice cream…

        (not saying the genocide doesn’t happen, but capitalism probably Skills more people than China)

          • @[email protected]English
            17•2 years ago

            Capitalism is the natural default after all.

            Capitalism, as we understand it today, is a relatively recent development in human history. For the vast majority of human existence, societies have been structured around other forms of economic organization like tribalism, feudalism, or mercantilism. Capitalism is not the default but a system that evolved over time in response to specific historical, technological, and social conditions.

            There are multiple successful economies worldwide that blend elements of capitalism with other economic systems, such as the Nordic model of social democracy, which combines free market capitalism with a strong welfare state. If capitalism were the default, we would not see such variety in economic systems.

              • @[email protected]English
                15•2 years ago

                Do you actually not know the difference between free trade and capitalism? Capitalism is when investors own the means of production in order to extract profit from a disparity between price and cost (including labor wages). There are plenty of free trade models which don’t utilize capitalism, they are not the same thing.

                Grog (the worker) owned his own axe (means of production) and traded the wood he gathered for shiny shells (free trade). Capitalism would be if Bunga (capitalist) owned the axe and then traded the wood Grog gathered himself, giving Grog some shells while keeping the rest (profit).

              • @[email protected]English
                6•2 years ago

                People have bemoaned capitalism as long as it has existed. When do you think this “golden age” of capitalism was when everyone was universally content with the state of affairs?

                  • @[email protected]English
                    8•2 years ago

                    To be GOVERNED is to be watched, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, regulated, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, checked, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right nor the wisdom nor the virtue to do so. To be GOVERNED is to be at every operation, at every transaction noted, registered, counted, taxed, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, authorized, admonished, prevented, forbidden, reformed, corrected, punished. It is, under pretext of public utility, and in the name of the general interest, to be place[d] under contribution, drilled, fleeced, exploited, monopolized, extorted from, squeezed, hoaxed, robbed; then, at the slightest resistance, the first word of complaint, to be repressed, fined, vilified, harassed, hunted down, abused, clubbed, disarmed, bound, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, shot, deported, sacrificed, sold, betrayed; and to crown all, mocked, ridiculed, derided, outraged, dishonored. That is government; that is its justice; that is its morality.

                    Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, 1851

                    I guess he was ahead of his time; able to criticize capitalism before it was invented!

          • Black616AngelEnglish
            9•2 years ago

            Nice pictures!
            Now do all the wars, the US has started in the last 70 years.
            And don’t forget their “war on drugs” as well as the opioid crisis, constant gun massacres, slaves in third world countries and so on.

            Again, I do not want to play down any massacre done by any regime but your “natural default” is just straight up bullshit.
            Capitalism only holds that long because people think they can be the ones spitting down.
            In socialism all shall be equal but people want to be better than others.

              • Black616AngelEnglish
                3•2 years ago

                Okay, I will not condemn communism, I will however condemn whatever China and Russia (and others) are doing which they call communism, while not granting most of their workers any rights let alone common ownership of the means of production or abandoning money, private property or social classes.

                To your imperialism argument I quote Lenin:

                Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism

                And even if you differentiate between imperialism and capitalism… How is the US massacre problem imperialism? How is the “war on drugs”/the opioid crisis/whatever the US does with their healthcare-system? How do you explain the constant need for growth in spite of a worsening climate?

          • @[email protected]English
            5•2 years ago

            (… no i will not quote and emphasize that last sentence …)
            My goodness, what are you doing on this server? Who has tormented your mind wich such garbage?