A brilliant film emerged from these skirmishes – but its core insight still takes work to unpack. For generations, a persistent myth that black families were irreparably broken by sloth and hedonism had been perpetuated by US culture. Congress’s landmark 1965 Moynihan Report, for example, blamed persistent racial inequality not on stymied economic opportunity but on the “tangle of pathologies” within the black family. Later, politicians circulated stereotypes of checked-out “crackheads” and lazy “welfare queens” to tar black women as incubators of thugs, delinquents, and “superpredators”. American History X made the bold move of shifting the spotlight away from the maligned black family and on to the sphere of the white family, where it illuminated a domestic scene that was a fertile ground for incubating racist ideas.

  • @masquenox
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    -11 year ago

    dad was your classic closer white racist who had no problem dropping n-bombs at the table

    It seems people are still having a really hard time understanding the difference between personally-held bigotry and institutionalized white supremacism. Placing the blame on Vineyard’s father for his children’s white supremacist beliefs is exactly the liberal “non-racism” I was referring to - it protects institutionalized white supremacism by pretending that “racism” is merely “bad feels” perpetrated by those “other/uneducated/poor/non-liberal bad whites.”

    Unfortunately - that is not how white supremacism works… and the movie completely ignores that.

    • @Dozzi92
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      11 year ago

      What do you want? Do you want a shot in utero where the switches for white supremacy are flipped? I’m not sure you’ll ever find what you’re looking for. I think the whole inherent racism thing is a switch that is or is not flipped during one’s development and the movie tried to tackle the issue within the 100 or so minutes it was given. At the very least it identified a facet of white supremacism.

      I suppose perhaps I’m ignorant, but you seem to say that the interactions we experience in the film are secondary to something more systemic, and while I suppose I can say yeah, I agree, to just shurg off these things and say no, that want it, Derek was born hading black dudes, I think is a little shortsighted. Frankly, if you don’t put stock in the interactions the movie depicts, then what hope do you have?

      I was born in the 80s and grew up with racism at my dinner table in a similar fashion, and when I was 15 I didn’t quite understand this movie in the same way I do at 36. I make efforts to not flip the switch for my kids at every opportunity. To hear you say it’s institutionalized makes me feel like it’s hopeless, and my babies, in spite of their colorblind nature now, will ultimately latch on to some rationale to hate people who don’t like like them, because it’s just in our nature.

      • @masquenox
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        11 year ago

        What do you want?

        Lots of things.

        Do you want a shot in utero where the switches for white supremacy are flipped?

        No.

        I think the whole inherent racism thing

        There is no such thing as “inherent racism” - in the same way that there is no such thing as “inherent Islamism” or “inherent monarchism.”

        but you seem to say that the interactions we experience in the film are secondary to something more systemic

        Yes.

        Frankly, if you don’t put stock in the interactions the movie depicts, then what hope do you have?

        Actually, if white supremacism worked the way the movie depicts it would be utterly hopeless - we’d be left with no option other than to declare that white supremacism and the reason it exists defies understanding… which it simply doesn’t. That is the liberal conceit of the movie - that racialization is (somehow) “natural” to humans when it so obviously isn’t.

        To hear you say it’s institutionalized makes me feel like it’s hopeless,

        That which is institutionalized can be dismantled - we are literally dismantling a small piece of it right now.

        and my babies, in spite of their colorblind nature now

        Your babies are not “colorblind” - not being able to see “race” is not some disability (you know… especially considering that “scientific racism” is literally pseudo-science despite the fact that it dictates so much of our reality in “western” society). What you meant to say is that your children have not been socialized into viewing the world through a white supremacist lens.

        That is impossible to avoid - white supremacism is not something you are born with, it is something you are born into. White people don’t get to opt out of it, black people don’t get to opt out of it - that is what is meant when we talk about our society being fundamentally white supremacist. It cannot be avoided - but it’s conceits can be understood, it’s camouflage ripped away, it’s tenets debunked, and, ultimately, the institutions that rest upon it can be thoroughly discredited. That is one of the main reasons the alt-right exists - people becoming more and more aware of how deep the white supremacism iceberg goes frightens them. There’s a good reason we call their ilk reactionaries.