Bubba Copeland shot himself in front of police on Friday, days after he begged 1819 News not to expose his private life.

Bubba Copeland shot himself in front of police on Friday, days after he begged 1819 News not to expose his private life.

  • darq
    30•8 months ago

    I feel pity for this person, they deserved better.

    That said. You cannot be supportive of LGBT people, and vote for the Republican party. Republicans are quite openly hostile to LGBT people, both in rhetoric and in policy. You can’t say you are supportive of a group while voting to strip them of their legal recognitions and protections.

    • @[email protected]
      2•8 months ago

      I agree with your comment, and I don’t think you’re saying otherwise. But definitely important to note that a lot of LGBT+ folks start off on the wrong side because of how they were raised, religion, etc. and the internal trans/homophobia that causes.

      That said, there are also though a sizeable number of LGBT+ “one of the good ones” who think their support of republicans will keep them from being targeted by the laws they want to introduce (it won’t. This case itself is proof of that.)

      I think that’s the important lesson to learn here for anyone voting republican and being a part of the LGBT community. The people you are voting for will not let you be just because you’re voting for them.

    • Drusas
      -2•8 months ago

      Did you read the article? He literally spoke with people online about how to transition and such. That is supporting them.

    • Bizarroland
      -14•8 months ago

      I take small umbrage with the idea that you cannot support LGBTQ people and vote in a way that doesn’t support your personal beliefs.

      We are all of us paradoxical and hypocritical. Maybe they weren’t pro-republican they were anti-democrat. I don’t fucking know.

      That aside, I get what you’re saying, but your political stance is not the end all and be all of who you are, and as the Republican party has proved beyond any shadow of any doubt being hypocritical is the name of their game.

      This one person could have been very pro-trans and yet still support the Republican agenda in every other way.

      Plus, we don’t know if they were pro-trans or LGBTQ, all that we know is that they were not publically anti-trans.

      • darq
        14•8 months ago

        I take small umbrage with the idea that you cannot support LGBTQ people and vote in a way that doesn’t support your personal beliefs.

        I don’t care.

        You cannot vote to make someone’s life measurably worse, and claim to support them.

        That’s not my “personal beliefs”, this is people’s lives and wellbeing.

        We are all of us paradoxical and hypocritical.

        That is fair. And that is why I pity this person. And why I’m not talking about Leopards Eating People’s Faces. This person was clearly troubled.

        That doesn’t change what I’m saying though. I’m not trying to morally judge this individual with what I’m saying. All I am saying is that the net effect of the actions of someone who votes Republican, is not supportive of LGBT people, regardless of their personal beliefs.

        Maybe they weren’t pro-republican they were anti-democrat. I don’t fucking know.

        That’s worse. You understand how that’s worse, right?

        This one person could have been very pro-trans and yet still support the Republican agenda in every other way.

        Human rights are pretty much a deal-breaker. Or at least they should be.

        Plus, we don’t know if they were pro-trans or LGBTQ, all that we know is that they were not publically anti-trans.

        You have misinterpreted my comment. I’m not trying to judge this person.

        I’m making a general statement that it is not possible to support a demographic while simultaneously voting to take away their legal recognitions and protections.