UFC star Paige VanZant said OnlyFans allows her to make ‘life-changing money’

  • @cricket98
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    -411 year ago

    It’s so cool that we are giving young woman the idea that they can make money by selling their body. I’m sure that is great for society.

    • @PopOfAfrica
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      511 year ago

      Dude, she was a professional fighter. She was already selling her body.

      • @cricket98
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        -321 year ago

        now she’s selling her dignity

          • @cricket98
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            -131 year ago

            I would say getting spitroasted on camera for the world to see is pretty degrading, and I think a lot of people share that opinion.

            • @[email protected]
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              61 year ago

              Sorry bro but someone else’s feelings doesn’t seem to be for you and your friends to decide. But you’re free to simply see it that way

              • @cricket98
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                -151 year ago

                God forbid I give my opinion on the internet

                • TomAwsm
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                  81 year ago

                  And now your opinion is permanently floating around on the internet. The horror!

                  • @[email protected]
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                    61 year ago

                    I feel sorry for that guy, now his opinion is floating around forever, all for 100 measly upvotes if that. I can’t imagine anything more degrading, it’s sad to see someone sell their dignity for nothing.

                  • @cricket98
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                    -31 year ago

                    posting your opinion on the internet is exactly like whats being discussed. you are very smart

    • @[email protected]
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      191 year ago

      It’s so cool that we are Capitalism is giving young women the idea that they can make money by selling their body. I’m sure that is great for society.

      FTFY

      Whether doing sex work, manual labor, or a desk job, you are selling your body for profit. If you have a problem with that then you have a problem with Capitalism.

      • @Godric
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        11 year ago

        Neat friend, can you please clarify what it is we are doing with our bodies under not-capitalism?

      • @cricket98
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        -101 year ago

        I’m sure all the girls who have their naked pictures permanently floating around the internet for creepy guys to jack off to are really happy with the 50$ they made doing so. For every successful only fans model there are 100’s who gave up their dignity for a permanent stain on their reputation that will follow them and their kids around for life.

        • @thenightisdark
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          61 year ago

          Why would naked pictures of yourself be a permanent stain on their reputation?

          • @cricket98
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            -11 year ago

            What’s fucked up on my view of the human body? Did you respond to the right comment?

            • @[email protected]
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              It’s kind of funny hearing you say that when some of the most famous paintings and statues are of people’s naked bodies. I’m not saying I’d do it or that people would want me to or that they won’t regret it any less than I regret some of the decisions I’ve made, but the biggest negative impact from doing so is social stigma from people who think doing so makes you less valuable. I’ll leave it up to you to decide if you’re going to stigmatize adults who are making choices about their life that pose no harm to anyone who hasn’t consented.

              • @cricket98
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                01 year ago

                Do you recognize the difference between artistic pieces and pornography? One is art, the other exists solely to let perverted old men jack off to you.

                • @[email protected]
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                  21 year ago

                  Okay, and? Is there someone forcing you to watch porn? Is there someone forcing you to make it? If not, then how about worry about your life and let other people worry about theirs.

    • @[email protected]
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      161 year ago

      You mean selling your body for fighting in UFC?

      The story of the opposite - she makes more money not selling her body!

    • @buddhabound
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      Yo… You think people never thought about selling sex before this was posted on Lemmy?

      This is like giving people the idea of the wheel. I’d be willing to bet that human beings bartered for sex before they bartered for food or water.

      • girlfreddy
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        -131 year ago

        … human beings bartered for sex

        I think you mean men bartered for sex before food or water.

        Women are smart enough to put their lives before sex.

        • @mriormro
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          31 year ago

          This is some of the dumbest shit I’ve read in a while.

      • @cricket98
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        -211 year ago

        Doing porn is a permanent stain on your reputation. I hate seeing young girls turn to it because of the easy money to be made. For every girl that has success on only fans is 50 girls who will have their nudes circulate the internet for eternity for a measly 100$.

        • @[email protected]
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          171 year ago

          It’s only a permanent stain to people who care.

          The people who make a big deal out of it are the ones that should be ashamed.

        • andyburke
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          111 year ago

          Barring any of the other context here, you need to back up and think about why you think it’s so awful for a nude picture to exist.

          Are you helping or are you pushing your own moral code onto those who may not share it?

          • @cricket98
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            I’m giving my opinion. If nudes are so harmless, why is revenge porn such a big deal? The answer is because once your nudes are public, you are no longer in control. Any man can see your most intimate moment and do with it how they please, and you can do nothing to stop it. Your child will have to grow up knowing there are videos of your mom shoving a cucumber up her butt for a months rent.

              • @cricket98
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                -71 year ago

                I don’t think it’s healthy for a child to have their friends show them pictures of their mother in intimate situations.

                • @[email protected]
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                  101 year ago

                  I don’t think it’s healthy for you to worry so much about what other people do with their bodies.

                  • @cricket98
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                    -71 year ago

                    You know that society is a big system right? Things other people do can have an indirect affect on me and my family. If everyone in my town smoked crack, I would get the fuck out of there, I wouldn’t gaslight people into thinking its “wrong to care about what other people do with their bodies”.

              • @cricket98
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                -61 year ago

                You lose consent forever when you release porn. You can never go back on it. You might be okay with it today but you have no choice how others use it for the rest of your life.

                Also relax a bit, no need to sperg out in a civil conversation.

    • @SalamendaciousOP
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      81 year ago

      In my opinion people should be able to do what they want with their own bodies (with the exception of meth, crack, etc) my problem with this only fans situation is that it’s just underscoring that our society only seems to value women for their sexuality. I don’t follow UFC but assuming she’s good at what she does it’s sad to me that society values her body more than her abilities. The same thing goes for the only fans teachers. I just wished we valued people for their skills and education more than their flesh. Like I said do what you want with your own body though.

      • @[email protected]
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        51 year ago

        Why don’t I have the right to do whatever drugs I like? I know what I’m getting into, and it’s my body. A lot of psychiatrists preach the benefits of mushrooms and acid for mental health. And meth and crack certainly aren’t as powerful as mushrooms or acid.

        • @SalamendaciousOP
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          -21 year ago

          My personal opinion is that there are some chemicals that are so detrimental to a person that society has the obligation to limit their use. Also, there is no articulable right to drugs in the Constitution except alcohol through the 21st amendment.

            • @SalamendaciousOP
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              the Constitution and decisions by the supreme Court determines what your legal rights are. Your opinions are your own and you can base them on whatever you want

              • @[email protected]
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                11 year ago

                Okay but why would I base them on the opinions of slave owners? That sounds stupid and nonsensical.

                • @SalamendaciousOP
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                  11 year ago

                  So there are two things at play here: rights and opinions. Legal rights in America are based on the constitution and the decisions made by the supreme Court. I’m not saying that they’re correct or not; justified or not; or ethical or not. I’m just making a statement of fact that’s where rights originate from in US law.

                  Opinions can be based on whatever you want. You are free to agree with or disagree with both the Constitution and the supreme Court. You can consider them valid or invalid institutions.

                  I’m not trying to tell you that you should be of a particular opinion or not.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    Rights in America are not given by the constitution, they are in-born. The constitution helps enforce your naturally given rights, but it is certainly fallible at this, for example it’s initial failing to protect the right to freedom held by slaves.

                    There are opinions, and there are facts. The right to freedom is a fact. Many of the founders were wrong on one of the foremost issues of their time, slavery, at a time when most of the rest of the world was not wrong about it anymore. As such, we should strongly discount all of their beliefs that are not independently verifiable. For instance, the electoral college. This was created in order to maintain the power of slave owners on government, and should be seen as a tool to oppress the will of the people. The EC is not flawed because it was created by slave owners, but it is suspect due to that, and on further inspection, it turns out to be a tool of oppression.

      • @cricket98
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        -161 year ago

        The reason porn pays is because so few woman are willing to give up their dignity for the sake of temporary cash flow. If everyone did porn, people would be making scraps.

          • @cricket98
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            -111 year ago

            not anymore its not, which is why very few make money.

            • @SalamendaciousOP
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              71 year ago

              There is a lot of pornography available. It is not a scarce commodity.

                • @SalamendaciousOP
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                  Your original comment:

                  The reason porn pays is because so few woman are willing to give up their dignity for the sake of temporary cash flow. If everyone did porn, people would be making scraps.

                  You’re making a basic supply and demand argument. As supply goes down (i.e. becomes scarce) and assuming demand remains constant the cost will increase.

                  If you’re selling apples. And 100 people want apples. The price you charge will fluctuate depending on how many apples you have. If you have 10 the cost goes up. If you have 1,000 the cost goes down.

                  My argument is pornography is not scarce. Meaning there’s a lot of it available (on the market) so I disagree with your assessment as to why “porn pays”

    • @captainlezbian
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      81 year ago

      Do you think that young women don’t figure it out on their own? I’m not saying this is a responsible article, but it’s more like a glowing article about how much oil field workers make. But sex work is old and young women have always figured it out.

      • @cricket98
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        -141 year ago

        I think we have yet to see the full impact of the damage to young women who were sold a dream of making money on only fans. Instead they will have their nudes permanently passed so disgusting old men can jack off to them. There is no undoing that and I suspect that will haunt a lot of girls far into the future.

        • @[email protected]
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          91 year ago

          You sure are doing women a favor by fear mongering over it and acting like it’s something shameful. With modern tech all you need is a picture of someone’s face anyway. And I say this as someone who has had content posted without my knowledge or consent. What exactly do you want me to do, live my life being “haunted” by this or tell people like you to fuck off and quit making it worse?

        • cassie 🐺
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          51 year ago

          Not on OF, but I’ve got nudes out there. I really don’t give a shit who sees em. I’m not ashamed of them. Where do you get the idea that irreparably damages women?

          • @cricket98
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            -21 year ago

            Cool, you have no shame for your actions. Glad you are able to live with your choices. A lot of people can’t though.