• Tedesche
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    Lemmings are rightly furious about these comments, but I don’t recall you all being upset about Tlaib’s tone-deaf implication that Israel should be wiped from the map.

    I’m not pretending Tlaib’s comments are as bad as these, because they’re not, but I am absolutely for censuring Tlaib over them. They were totally out of line, no matter what she meant.

    • queermunist she/her
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      She called for Palestine to be free from the river to the sea. That doesn’t actually require wiping Israel off the map.

      Palestine and Israel could just become a single multi-ethnic democracy so everyone gets equal rights and equal protections.

      • @Chatotorix
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        181 year ago

        It’s like saying “Black Lives Matter” is racist because the implication is that only black lives matter, when it is actually meant to say black lives also matter. Bad faith interpretation.

      • Tedesche
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        -121 year ago

        “From the river to the sea” is a phrase used by Hamas and other anti-Israel groups in the region to talk about wiping Israel out. I don’t think Tlaib was actually calling for the destruction of Israel, but her choice of phrase was absolutely moronic, and I don’t believe she ever apologized for it. That’s what I meant about her comments not being as bad as these, but still bad.

        • queermunist she/her
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          “From the river to the sea” is also a phrase used by the entire Palestinian resistance. Everyone, from peaceful protesters to violent militants, are saying the same thing- they are demanding freedom. The fact that some of them are more extreme than others is no reason to throw the baby out with the bath water. Even the ones that are anti-Israel aren’t calling for genocide - they want Israel abolished and all Jewish Israelis to become Palestinian.

          From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free. Deal. With. It.

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      “Lemmy did not levy these exact condemnations over a less-offensive comment and therefore…”

      What? So what? What is your point? You posted this just to side track condemnation of actual genocidal language in order to drop some open-ended whataboutism?

        • @MJKee9
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          131 year ago

          Those comments are fine. The only ones pissed off about them are insincere fear mongers and genocidal apologists.

          • @Chatotorix
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            121 year ago

            Exactly. Tlaib literally says its meaning is of peaceful coexistence. There is absolutely no comparison with the woman above saying all Palestinians should be dead.

          • Tedesche
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            You think using the exact language Hamas uses when they call for Israel’s obliteration is fine? There’s definitely something wrong with you.

            • @MJKee9
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              You sir\madam are not a nice person.

              • Tedesche
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                -91 year ago

                If I’m “not nice,” you’re far worse.

                • @Scotty_Trees
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                  11 year ago

                  Everyone is entitled to be stupid. But you abuse that privilege.