ah yes. c/dankmemes the penultimate place for discourse on the social impacts of science and religion. Y’all taking this shit too seriously which is my entire point. Obviously if it’s an issue it’s an issue. But the meme is clearly for a western audience by a western audience. And most people on forum aggregators like Lemmy attack people for stuff they barely understand. The average latte drinking middle class valley girl isn’t harming anyone by talking about their chakras and tarot cards. It’s literally just a comfort thing for their subculture. You sound like my mom yelling about starving children in Africa when I wouldn’t eat her spaghetti. Just straight to the dumbest extreme
Right except for I have never once seen a situation where being wrong has offered a long term benefit to a person.
To the extent our models reflect the universe accurately is the extent that our decisions can be informed. A small irrational belief you are right probably not the biggest deal but I don’t know how you established that this is the case here. Who knows how many “average latte drinking middle class valley girls” made decisions about employment, friendship, relationships, schooling based on this stuff?
Anecdotal I know but my wife’s family is from the part of the world where it is taken seriously. Pretty close to our wedding my MIL sent us her blessing because her fortune teller signed off on it. I am curious, do you think it would have no impact had the fortune teller said otherwise? Like if you are the type of person to spend money going to a fortune teller to ask deeply private questions do you think you would ignore what they said?
You don’t get to decide what it a “good model” for an individual. What matters is whether or not the individual is making positive changes in their life by adapting models to their benefit. You should reevaluate your understanding of “truth,” because it’s not just how the world literally is, but is more importantly how people experience it. The measure of their character isn’t determined by your desire to fit their world view into a nicey labeled box
ah yes. c/dankmemes the penultimate place for discourse on the social impacts of science and religion. Y’all taking this shit too seriously which is my entire point. Obviously if it’s an issue it’s an issue. But the meme is clearly for a western audience by a western audience. And most people on forum aggregators like Lemmy attack people for stuff they barely understand. The average latte drinking middle class valley girl isn’t harming anyone by talking about their chakras and tarot cards. It’s literally just a comfort thing for their subculture. You sound like my mom yelling about starving children in Africa when I wouldn’t eat her spaghetti. Just straight to the dumbest extreme
Right except for I have never once seen a situation where being wrong has offered a long term benefit to a person.
To the extent our models reflect the universe accurately is the extent that our decisions can be informed. A small irrational belief you are right probably not the biggest deal but I don’t know how you established that this is the case here. Who knows how many “average latte drinking middle class valley girls” made decisions about employment, friendship, relationships, schooling based on this stuff?
Anecdotal I know but my wife’s family is from the part of the world where it is taken seriously. Pretty close to our wedding my MIL sent us her blessing because her fortune teller signed off on it. I am curious, do you think it would have no impact had the fortune teller said otherwise? Like if you are the type of person to spend money going to a fortune teller to ask deeply private questions do you think you would ignore what they said?
You don’t get to decide what it a “good model” for an individual. What matters is whether or not the individual is making positive changes in their life by adapting models to their benefit. You should reevaluate your understanding of “truth,” because it’s not just how the world literally is, but is more importantly how people experience it. The measure of their character isn’t determined by your desire to fit their world view into a nicey labeled box
I never claimed I get to decide that. Reality doesn’t consult me about anything.
And no sorry I have no use for solipsism. Materialism ftw. Deal with the universe exactly as it is; raw, uncaring, cold, huge, and ugly.
You’re missing the point