• bluGill
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    311 months ago

    Automated signaling exists and can manage all sections at the maximum safe speed. Trains shouldn’t even have anyone inside to drive normally. The job is obsolete today. (drivers might be useful in yards, or little used branches, but not the main line - in both cases the driver should live near their section and work when there is a train then go home)

    Of course automatic signaling is programmed to be safe. Thus if that section cannot be driven faster than 10mph (or whatever speed) there is no override to go faster anyway.

    • @SheeEttin
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      11 months ago

      Exists, yes, but is not installed throughout the US rail systems.

      But there should still be a human on the trains. Automatic signaling won’t stop a train when there’s a stalled car on a crossing, or someone walking on the tracks.

      • bluGill
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        111 months ago

        A human on board won’t stop a train either. They will hit the brakes, but trains don’t stop fast enough to make a difference in those situations.

        • @SheeEttin
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          111 months ago

          Feel free to consider other scenarios. That’s just the first that came to mind.

          • bluGill
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            111 months ago

            I’m willing to, but so far I’m not ware of any.

    • @[email protected]
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      511 months ago

      I’m not 100% sure about that. Can you give me a little context as to where your knowledge comes from? Railroaders I’ve seen discussing fully automated trains seemed to have some doubts about the viability of the technology.

      • bluGill
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        211 months ago

        Many passenger trains around the world run fully automated.

        the big issue is without someone on board there is nobody to see someone on the tracks and hit the emergency brake. My counter to that is it doesn’t matter as the train won’t stop until long after whoever was on the track is hit and dead.

        • @lemming741
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          411 months ago

          They’re not there to hit the brakes, they’re there to report it.

        • Flying Squid
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          111 months ago

          Passenger trains generally don’t go that fast in areas where they’re likely to hit something or derail. Which is not what rail executives want.

          • bluGill
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            211 months ago

            Passenger trains have better maintained tracks and so are not likely to derail. They are also less likely to hit things because they are grade separated - fenced, elevated tracks, in tunnels. These are more cost, but they are things society wants (not the same as rail executives) Trams which run on the street are much slower and do have drivers.