Israel, the United States and Hamas are close to an agreement to free dozens of women and children held hostage in Gaza, in exchange for the first sustained pause in conflict in Gaza, according to people familiar with its provisions.

    • osarusan
      3•1 year ago

      Exactly. I don’t even have any argument for people who dislike Biden, and I totally sympathize with people who want a different candidate.

      But in the end of the day, either A or B will win this election, and anything other than a vote for A mathematically works out to support for B. So unless you actually want Trump to win, the _only _reasonable choice is to vote for Biden.

        • osarusan
          1•1 year ago

          I don’t know. I’ve it out rationally several times to people who then get angry and emotional about it. These purity test commenters are the same way. Their position isn’t based on reason, and it often seems like showing reasoning to them won’t change their mind. But fighting certainly won’t help either.

          I think the thing you gotta do is just remain as non-confrontational as possible and explain the game theory/the math behind why it works. And let them know it’s not a condemnation of their dislike of the system, or of Biden, or of whatever. You can hate something and still vote for it, and that can still be the best choice too. Just don’t fall for the bait from those commenters who think their being cute by picking fights or turning it personal. Keep it rational. Maybe the person you’re talking to won’t change their mind, but a 3rd person who reads the conversation later on might see how you’re being rational and making points while the other guy is just being stubborn, argumentative, and irrational.

    • PugJesus
      -5•1 year ago

      Unfortunately, support for Israel is also widespread in the US, so in either case, Biden loses votes. From a domestic and strategic political perspective, there are no right answers.

      • Skua
        2•1 year ago

        Surely this can be spun as saving Israeli lives for those people? Sure, it’s going to save way more Palestinians, but you’d think it can be marketed as “I brokered the deal that saved the Israeli hostages”