• @surewhynotlem
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    911 months ago

    Exactly. Both are fruit. Both are blaming the victim for illegal activities of someone else.

    • @Coreidan
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      -1011 months ago

      Resisting arrest is a crime.

      Wearing a skirt isn’t a crime.

      You’re being obtuse in either case. If you want to fight the cops go for it but you’ll lose every time. You know that already, so there is no excuse for not knowing that resisting arrest will ALWAYS make the situation worse.

      There is never a situation where escalating with the cops will benefit you.

      If you think this is relatable to getting raped then you sound like you live in a little bubble.

      • @surewhynotlem
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        611 months ago

        Resisting arrest is a crime. But it’s not a crime you can be arrested for.

        You have to be under arrest for something in order to resist arrest. Then they can add that as a crime.

        So tell me, what was he being arrested for? Because I’m pretty sure he was actually resisting illegal detainment.

        • @Coreidan
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          First of all it sounds like you’re completely oblivious to the law and how the real world works.

          Second of all did you even bother reading the article? The cops were called to the apartment due to domestic violence reports. The officers confronted someone at the apartment and stopped them to ask them questions. They weren’t being “detained”.

          Instead of complying with the cops he immediately ran. When finally confronted he started fighting. This went on for 7 minutes. 7 minutes is a long fucking time to be fighting someone.

          He wasn’t “executed” like all the super dramatic folks in here are saying. He died several days later in the hospital.

          Running from the cops is always the wrong idea. Fighting the cops will only be met with further escalation.

          • bane_killgrind
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            711 months ago

            The officers confronted someone at the apartment and stopped them to ask them questions. They weren’t being “detained”.

            Instead of complying with the cops

            If he wasn’t free to go, he was being detained.

            If he was being detained, they needed a reasonable suspicion that he committed a crime.

            They didn’t have that, they didn’t do their job, and they lost their qualified immunity.

            Are you oblivious to the law?

            • @Coreidan
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              -511 months ago

              If he was being detained, they needed a reasonable suspicion that he committed a crime.

              They didn’t have that

              They had that the moment he ran. Are you daft?

              You really have no idea what you’re talking about.

                • @Coreidan
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                  11 months ago

                  The simple fact that you’re running from the police is enough “suspicion” that you committed a crime, especially if they are showing up to an existing scene of a crime.

                  They can’t arrest you for a crime unless you committed a crime, but they have the legal right to detain you to investigate.

                  Why was he running from the cops?

                  If the police are giving you a lawful order you need to comply.

                  • Exatron
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                    511 months ago

                    What does boot taste like?

                    And why do you think cops get to be judge, jury, and executioner?

                  • bane_killgrind
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                    211 months ago

                    Did he match the description of the people that left?

                    Was that a lawful order?

                    Why did they lose so bad in court if they weren’t doing the wrong things?

          • bane_killgrind
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            611 months ago

            Killmer told the panel a jury could find the arrest wasn’t lawful in the first place.

            From the article