Agents rarely get in trouble for intentionally firing their guns at people or animals. The two “bad shoot” incidents were not previously known.
  • SightlineEnglish
    -5•1 year ago

    Both cops and military are taught you can shoot someone running away if you reasonably believe they will harm others.

    • @FontMasterFlex
      6•1 year ago

      this is so far from the truth. stfu about shit you know nothing about. shooting at a fleeing ‘suspect’ or ‘combatant’ is a big no no.

      • SightlineEnglish
        0•1 year ago

        1.5.7. Escape. Deadly force is authorized when it appears necessary to prevent the escape of a prisoner, provided there is probable cause to believe such person(s) committed or attempted to commit a serious offense, that is, one that involves immediate threat of death or serious bodily harm, and would pose an immediate threat of death or serious bodily harm to DoD forces or others in the vicinity. Source: AFI 31-117

        Here’s the DoE’s version:

        (5) Apprehension. When deadly force reasonably appears to be necessary to apprehend or prevent the escape of a person reasonably believed to: (i) have committed an offense of the nature specified in paragraphs (a)(1) through (a)(4) 1 of this section; or (ii) be escaping by use of a weapon or explosive or who otherwise indicates that he or she poses a significant threat of death or serious bodily harm to the protective force officer or others unless apprehended without delay.

    • BlanketsWithSmallpox
      0•1 year ago

      Downvoted for being right despite the people below not understanding hors de combat.

      Fleeing does not mean surrender. Being injured enough to not be able to fight, essentially unconscious is another. You can also shoot someone if you reasonably believe they’re commiting perfidy. These are protected by the Geneva convention and war crimes themselves.

      https://lieber.westpoint.edu/down-not-always-out-hors-de-combat-close-fight/

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfidy

      https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule47

        • SightlineEnglish
          0•1 year ago

          1.5.7. Escape. Deadly force is authorized when it appears necessary to prevent the escape of a prisoner, provided there is probable cause to believe such person(s) committed or attempted to commit a serious offense, that is, one that involves immediate threat of death or serious bodily harm, and would pose an immediate threat of death or serious bodily harm to DoD forces or others in the vicinity. Source: AFI 31-117

          Here’s the DoE’s version:

          (5) Apprehension. When deadly force reasonably appears to be necessary to apprehend or prevent the escape of a person reasonably believed to: (i) have committed an offense of the nature specified in paragraphs (a)(1) through (a)(4) 1 of this section; or (ii) be escaping by use of a weapon or explosive or who otherwise indicates that he or she poses a significant threat of death or serious bodily harm to the protective force officer or others unless apprehended without delay.

          I have multiple DD-214’s FYI.