That point is very American centric but it’s telling that that’s the only part you want to engage with, going so far as to misrepresent their position.
They said it was part of the problem, not “all the fault of” as you said.
Are you purposely being a troll or are you just actually that stupid?
Either way I’ll humour you.
My comment was a general statement made from experience in majority white western countries. In countries that aren’t majority white, then its obviously slightly different. But the main takeaway is that political movements that seek to equalise power imbalances are going to piss off the people that tradionally held that power, as instinctual people don’t like having their power reduced.
And on Brazil specifically 47% of Brazil is white mostly die to Portuguese colonisation, and those white people have a disproportionate amount of power compared to non whites in Brazil. So yes, even in Brazil white people have privilege.
I’m saying what is their fault? Who is talking about fault?
Yes, white people in a post colonial nation inherently have some privilege. Or are you going to argue that colonialism didn’t favour white people? Because I really wouldn’t put it past you. Like to give you the 101 of institutional racism, even though I feel at this point that you’ve made up your mind that “privilege doesn’t exist” and no amount of reason will get you to change that. Taking colonialism racism and slavery existing, being a bad thing and favouring the European settlers as an axiom. Then even if you assume that racism has been “”“solved”“” then the white people that benefited from that wealth will have passed down that wealth and often power to the kids and grandkids, so now you have a situation where the white population has still benefited from racism despite not directly taking part in it.
I am a white man and because I come from a piss-poor family it took me a while to understand the concept of privilege too, until I got a better understanding of European Piss-poor versus global piss-poor and then it clicked that even poor white people like me still benefited from slavery and institutional racism.
You seem to be deliberately misconstruing their point to say something they aren’t, or completely misunderstanding. They at no point said white people inherit racial original sin. They did say that other people claim that, which winds up driving some white people to spaces where they are celebrated, which in turn bolsters far-right nutjob dictators.
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That point is very American centric but it’s telling that that’s the only part you want to engage with, going so far as to misrepresent their position.
They said it was part of the problem, not “all the fault of” as you said.
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Are you purposely being a troll or are you just actually that stupid?
Either way I’ll humour you.
My comment was a general statement made from experience in majority white western countries. In countries that aren’t majority white, then its obviously slightly different. But the main takeaway is that political movements that seek to equalise power imbalances are going to piss off the people that tradionally held that power, as instinctual people don’t like having their power reduced.
And on Brazil specifically 47% of Brazil is white mostly die to Portuguese colonisation, and those white people have a disproportionate amount of power compared to non whites in Brazil. So yes, even in Brazil white people have privilege.
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I’m saying what is their fault? Who is talking about fault?
Yes, white people in a post colonial nation inherently have some privilege. Or are you going to argue that colonialism didn’t favour white people? Because I really wouldn’t put it past you. Like to give you the 101 of institutional racism, even though I feel at this point that you’ve made up your mind that “privilege doesn’t exist” and no amount of reason will get you to change that. Taking colonialism racism and slavery existing, being a bad thing and favouring the European settlers as an axiom. Then even if you assume that racism has been “”“solved”“” then the white people that benefited from that wealth will have passed down that wealth and often power to the kids and grandkids, so now you have a situation where the white population has still benefited from racism despite not directly taking part in it.
I am a white man and because I come from a piss-poor family it took me a while to understand the concept of privilege too, until I got a better understanding of European Piss-poor versus global piss-poor and then it clicked that even poor white people like me still benefited from slavery and institutional racism.
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You seem to be deliberately misconstruing their point to say something they aren’t, or completely misunderstanding. They at no point said white people inherit racial original sin. They did say that other people claim that, which winds up driving some white people to spaces where they are celebrated, which in turn bolsters far-right nutjob dictators.