Everyone I have something very important to say about The Agora.
The Problem
Let me be super clear here to something people don’t seem to understand about lemmy and the fediverse. Votes mean absolutely nothing. No less than nothing.
In the fediverse, anyone can open a instance, create as many users as they want and one person can easily vote 10,000 times. I’m serious. This is not hard to do.
Voting at best is a guide to what is entertaining.
As soon as you allow a incentive the vast majority of votes will be fake. They might already be mostly fake.
If you try to make any decision using votes as a guide someone WILL manipulate votes to control YOU.
one solution (think of others too!)
A counsel of trusted users.
The admin, top mods may set up a group to decide on who to ban and what instances to defederate from. You will not get it right 100% of the time but you also won’t be controlled by one guy in his basement, running 4 instances and 1,000 alts.
Now i’m gonna go back to shit posting.
Says the guy using his alt and getting sudden upvotes
I’m not on an alt. I’m getting upvotes because I’m right and you’re wrong. What the fuck are you even talking about? Are you trying to troll? Is this your sad attempt at trolling?
You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. Just stop trying. Your username alone proves that you’re a bullshit liar and here in bad faith.
Go away.
I don’t think you should tell people to go away on this community.
You have not even remotely addressed my concerns. You have not disproven them. They are demonstrably true. Your refusal to address them is further proof it’s a valid concern
What is demonstrably true should be demonstrated to demonstrate its demonstrability.
Good God.
Do you want me to make ten alts, vote ten times and take a screenshot?
i was referring to your claim that he was an alt
Let me know if you ever get something else than the sound of the wind blowing 🤓
The more I see this olibrius, the more I wonder if he’s not actually the one that’s polluted this instance with troll accounts in the past few days (maybe including Beehaw).
Yup. Maybe this thread is just him warning us about himself and his intentions. 🙄
Definitely.
Given that your account showed up immediately during the defederation of sh.itjustworks discussion and the removal of a certain account and community, I think the bad faith argument is valid.
For one, a ton of new users are coming in from reddit as of recent. Hardly seems unusual to complain if an instance that seemed like something they’d enjoy makes changes they don’t enjoy.
Secondly, why is it bad faith if he came from another instance after it was defederated? If he enjoyed the content here, but was blocked from actually interacting with it, would it not be a reasonable decision to make an account here?
I should clarify, it wasn’t the beehaw defed. It was the notification that our defederation was being discussed elsewhere, the Donald community was closed, and users were banned, which did not occur with the beehaw defed.
At the time of that ban, this user came, with similar though less antagonistic talking points, replying in the same thread as their only activity as a registered user, and has since deleted their comments in that thread.
It is possible it’s in good faith, though given the above experience, I find it less likely.