@SeahorseTreble to Ask Lemmy • 1 year agoJustifying one thing because it's a necessary component of another unnecessary thing... what logical fallacy is that?message-square125arrow-up147arrow-down13
arrow-up144arrow-down1message-squareJustifying one thing because it's a necessary component of another unnecessary thing... what logical fallacy is that?@SeahorseTreble to Ask Lemmy • 1 year agomessage-square125
minus-square@[email protected]linkfedilink2•1 year agoThat’s debatable, I feel like spiders design their webs.
minus-square@[email protected]linkfedilinkEnglish0•1 year agodo they understand they might try other patterns, and actively choose the one they use?
minus-square@[email protected]linkfedilink2•1 year agoI don’t know what their cognitive processes are, but it seems unlikely they do. It still sounds perfectly normal to me to say the following: “Spider webs are designed to be safe for the spider, but still trap as much potential prey as possible.” Does that really hit your ear (eye) wrong?
minus-square@[email protected]linkfedilinkEnglish0•1 year agoyes. i would talk about the evolutionary pressures that have shaped the behavior of the organism. i wouldn’t impart volition to them.
minus-square@[email protected]linkfedilinkEnglish1•1 year ago“spiders have evolved to produce webs. evolutionary pressures have favored species which produce webs that are safe for the organism and effective at trapping enough prey to maintain the life and reproductive cycles of the organism.”
design implies a designer.
The mother designs it.
design takes volition.
That’s debatable, I feel like spiders design their webs.
do they understand they might try other patterns, and actively choose the one they use?
I don’t know what their cognitive processes are, but it seems unlikely they do. It still sounds perfectly normal to me to say the following:
“Spider webs are designed to be safe for the spider, but still trap as much potential prey as possible.”
Does that really hit your ear (eye) wrong?
yes. i would talk about the evolutionary pressures that have shaped the behavior of the organism. i wouldn’t impart volition to them.
How would you phrase it? (Honest question)
“spiders have evolved to produce webs. evolutionary pressures have favored species which produce webs that are safe for the organism and effective at trapping enough prey to maintain the life and reproductive cycles of the organism.”