These countries tried everything from cash to patriotic calls to duty to reverse drastically declining birth rates. It didn’t work.

If history is any guide, none of this will work: No matter what governments do to convince them to procreate, people around the world are having fewer and fewer kids.

In the US, the birth rate has been falling since the Great Recession, dropping almost 23 percent between 2007 and 2022. Today, the average American woman has about 1.6 children, down from three in 1950, and significantly below the “replacement rate” of 2.1 children needed to sustain a stable population. In Italy, 12 people now die for every seven babies born. In South Korea, the birth rate is down to 0.81 children per woman. In China, after decades of a strictly enforced one-child policy, the population is shrinking for the first time since the 1960s. In Taiwan, the birth rate stands at 0.87.

  • @[email protected]
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    1910 months ago

    but also society and school are actively anti-discipline to the point you can’t even stop a kid from running wild and dominating the household

    This is my only grievance with what you said. Wtf are you smoking. Yes, the method of discipline has changed but the only kids running wild and dominating the household are the ones where the parents aren’t doing their damn job.

    Source - am parent of 3 kids under 13 and none of them run wild or dominate my household because a household isn’t a goddamn democracy it’s a dictatorship.

    • @[email protected]
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      010 months ago

      It varies by region or state. Some places you can discipline pretty easily, others your ex will use your any discipline at all as a reason to take your kids away.

      • @HerrBeter
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        210 months ago

        Thou shalt not hit thein offspring

          • @HerrBeter
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            110 months ago

            The way you worded your arguments made it seem like you were implying that it was unjust to not be allowed to send some punches or smacks and such

      • @Fosheze
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        110 months ago

        It sure sounds like you’re beating your children which is not dicipline. It’s abuse.