As the title says, who is Henry Kissinger?

I read this from Wikipedia:

“Kissinger pioneered the policy of détente with the Soviet Union, orchestrated an opening of relations with China, engaged in what became known as shuttle diplomacy in the Middle East to end the Yom Kippur War, and negotiated the Paris Peace Accords, which ended American involvement in the Vietnam War. He has also been associated with controversial policies, such as the U.S. bombing of Cambodia during the Vietnam War, U.S. involvement in the 1973 Chilean military coup, a “green light” to Argentina’s military junta for their Dirty War, and U.S. support for Pakistan during the Bangladesh Liberation War despite a genocide being perpetrated by Pakistan.”

It sounds like he was a bad guy, but I know there’s more to the story than that with the collective hate I see for him here on Lemmy.

  • @[email protected]
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    71 year ago

    If you all think we collectively hate the guy when he actually was a good father, good employer and genius genocide orchestrator, why are you asking Lemmy?

    • Cris
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      71 year ago

      Was the post edited? It seems like op provided the context that they had, and then asked what more they might understand about the topic given how strongly folks feel about it… That doesn’t seem like an unreasonable way to learn more about a topic you don’t know much about, when all you have to go on is some blurbs from Wikipedia

      • @[email protected]
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        31 year ago

        I don’t think so. My point still stands that OP wants deeper learning while blaming other people that memes aren’t teaching them? I guess you often have to read past Wikipedia. I mean every single outlet published an obituary on him. It’s not like he has to wait for the local community college to run a new Kissinger course in the fall.

        • Cris
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          1 year ago

          Well sure, but the whole point of the community is to fill people in? Thats the only reason c/OutOfTheLoop exists.

          Sure they could also go learn about him somewhere else, but like, they could also learn about him here… It’s a space for learning about stuff

          I’m not sure where op blamed others for memes not teaching them, but its possible I missed it in the thread, or that I just read the original post differently

          Edit: added the last section, cause thats fair if I missed that or interpreted their post differently

            • Cris
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              31 year ago

              From reading back over their post and the one reply they had in the thread, I don’t think op was trying to convey that everyone here is a biased ideologue. I honestly think they were just trying to acknowledge that the platform collectively has a shared perspective on Kissenger, since thats relevant context when asking about where that shared perspective comes from

              They may have explained that a little awkwardly (its kind of an awkward thing to find good words and sentence structure for 🤷) but I don’t think there’s any malice from op, just a sense that they’re out of the loop on why everyone else thinks what they think

              • @[email protected]
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                11 year ago

                It’s still intellectually lazy. If the assumption is that everyone is wrong, go research for yourself.

                • Cris
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                  11 year ago

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    • JustinOP
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      31 year ago

      I didn’t mean to undermine him in any way, I just opened up Lemmy and noticed a lot of posts that were negative about him. I wanted to understand why, and what better way to figure that out than asking directly?