Nearly a million Tibetan children live in state-run residential schools on the Tibetan plateau. Chinese authorities subject these children to a highly politicized curriculum designed to strip them of their mother tongue, sever their ties to their religion and culture, and methodically replace their Tibetan identity with a Chinese one. Children as young as four have been separated from their parents and enrolled in boarding kindergartens under a recruitment strategy based largely on coercion.

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    16 months ago

    A “haven” is a place, not a people. And a haven usually describes a place that has favorable laws, regulations, or attitudes towards certain behaviors. To me that is a government since havens usually have laws to support that. For example, a tax haven is a place where laws and government are organized in a way to be favorable to tax evasion.

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      16 months ago

      Yes, I suspected you might go this route of saying “well, the shitty place is made shitty by the government, so it’s really a claim about the government after all.” I find that as dubious as saying “Africa is a shithole. That’s a claim about their governments, nothing racist against Africans!”

      Look, I think the Chinese government is authoritarian, immoral, and repressive, and what they’re doing in Tibet is genocide. But you’re turning a blind eye to anti-Asian racism if you’re doing mental gymnastics to defend racist generalizations against Chinese people. Another person in this very thread said, “China is a terrible country. There’s no discussion to be had here”. Are you going to make excuses for that person too? Maybe they meant the government too, and not the country or culture? That would be absolutely beyond naive.

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        6 months ago

        As a Chinese American I in now way interpreted the comment as being a generalization about Chinese people. A haven is a place, normally referencing a port. I think it requires a lot more gymnastics to turn a statement about the country to a generalization about ethnicity.

        Also, weird take to have and not also be critical of the headline of this article or language in the article itself. This comment uses the term “China” in the same general sense as the article.

        • @[email protected]
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          Sure you can dig your heels in, and there’s apparently nothing I can say to convince you otherwise. You haven’t addressed my analogies to other similar expressions, so it sounds like we’re not even really having a discussion anymore. Are you also defending “China is a terrible country”? Who knows!

          The article says “China’s brutal treatment…” where “China” is clearly a metonym for the Chinese state. But “China is a haven” is not a metonym and doesn’t refer to specific state actions. I don’t see any similar usage in the headline, “Chinese” is an adjective, so that’s a real stretch.