That’s more of a centrist take. It makes perfect sense for trans allies to demonize transphobes, for example. Nobody is advocating against constructive conversation, but sometimes views are genuinely rooted in malice and thus cannot be reasoned with.
Keep your labels to yourself, and no it doesn’t make sense to demonize, ever. Take literally myself for example. I’m into futas and whatnot, but lots of gay dudes genuinely freak me out. It’s not the gayness, but some other creepy shit that comes packaged with it. I was literally stalked in the shower by multiple dudes in the homeless shelter and staff did nothing. I had a dude in jail who convinced the COs to make him my celly because he thought I would hook up with him and when I denied him he became violent about it. This is just the two most strand out examples. Gay dudes actually creep me out. You gonna demonize me for that?
I’m not sure you want to take a middle ground between being transphobic and being a trans ally, as that’s just transphobia. The transphobes should, in fact, be shunned and demonized for being bigots.
Your problem is that you’re calling it what is not to have an easier time ridiculing and sounding cool. Malice and fear are not the same. Don’t give the malice camp allies from the fearful camp.
Neither malice nor fear are good when directed at minority populations, and pretending one is better than the other when they breed each other is again a meaningless centrist take.
I’m flattered that you think I sound cool, though 😎
Ever heard of “Germany Must Perish”? Hitler was evil, but the fears he used to achieve his ends weren’t unfounded. When you go after the fearful, you leave them thinking their only allies are the evil. If you’re gonna insist that way, I can’t even blame them. Your gotta understand the mechanisms.
I understand the mechanisms perfectly well, you’re just arguing that lighter transphobia and homophobia should be acceptable and shouldn’t be demonized. Transphobia and homophobia should be demonized.
That’s more of a centrist take. It makes perfect sense for trans allies to demonize transphobes, for example. Nobody is advocating against constructive conversation, but sometimes views are genuinely rooted in malice and thus cannot be reasoned with.
Keep your labels to yourself, and no it doesn’t make sense to demonize, ever. Take literally myself for example. I’m into futas and whatnot, but lots of gay dudes genuinely freak me out. It’s not the gayness, but some other creepy shit that comes packaged with it. I was literally stalked in the shower by multiple dudes in the homeless shelter and staff did nothing. I had a dude in jail who convinced the COs to make him my celly because he thought I would hook up with him and when I denied him he became violent about it. This is just the two most strand out examples. Gay dudes actually creep me out. You gonna demonize me for that?
I’m not sure you want to take a middle ground between being transphobic and being a trans ally, as that’s just transphobia. The transphobes should, in fact, be shunned and demonized for being bigots.
Homophobia ain’t cool either.
Your problem is that you’re calling it what is not to have an easier time ridiculing and sounding cool. Malice and fear are not the same. Don’t give the malice camp allies from the fearful camp.
Neither malice nor fear are good when directed at minority populations, and pretending one is better than the other when they breed each other is again a meaningless centrist take.
I’m flattered that you think I sound cool, though 😎
You’re a guilt by association kind of guy, and you’re complaining about guilt by association people…
For the record, I’m not defending malice. That’s just lunacy.
I’m a guilt by guilt kinda guy. Fear of minorities is bad.
Ever heard of “Germany Must Perish”? Hitler was evil, but the fears he used to achieve his ends weren’t unfounded. When you go after the fearful, you leave them thinking their only allies are the evil. If you’re gonna insist that way, I can’t even blame them. Your gotta understand the mechanisms.
I understand the mechanisms perfectly well, you’re just arguing that lighter transphobia and homophobia should be acceptable and shouldn’t be demonized. Transphobia and homophobia should be demonized.