• @danielfgom
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    -11 year ago

    They aren’t murdering Palestinians. It’s war and Hamas hide behind citizens

    • @theluckyone
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      21 year ago

      The IDF has a long tradition of using excessive force and not caring about collateral damage and deaths of innocent civilians. I don’t believe that’s changed overnight. https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/06/04/israel-50-years-occupation-abuses

      I suppose Hamas was hiding behind this Palestinian, too? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/10/video-appears-show-cheers-israeli-sniper-shoots-palestinian

      The way I see it, claiming Hamas is hiding behind citizens is just an excuse for the IDF to murder two Palestinians for every Hamas fighter, without stressing their conscience: https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/05/middleeast/israel-hamas-military-civilian-ratio-killed-intl-hnk/index.html

      The blood of innocents is on their hands and people like you, supporting them. Hamas, the IDF, the Israeli government… All murderers or complicit thereof.

      • @danielfgom
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        -11 year ago

        You really need to change your reading habits: you’re reading all the trash left leaning media who are very often reporting fake and biased news.

        1. Human Rights Watch is a joke. Completely over exaggerated and non factual. I wouldn’t give them the time of day.
        2. The sniper was most likely a know, wanted criminal or Hamas terrorist. Which is why they took a child with hoping the child would die instead of the scumbag terrorist. IDF doesn’t just randomly shoot innocent civilians. IDF are very strict about that an every case of shooting by an IDF solider is investigated to be sure it was justified. If not, the soldier is prosecuted under the law. This is fact.
        3. The commander speaking with CNN is telling you that for CITY COMBAT where Hamas PURPOSEFULLY shoot from families homes, hospitals, schools etc, the ratio of harmed civilians is very, very, very low. Do you know hard hard it is to shoot a terrorist hiding in the middle of a crowd of people, shooting from that position? To kill them and possibly only 1 or 2 people standing right next to him is very difficult. That proves the IDF is taking extreme measures to be very careful before firing. They should be commended for that. In a war, that is not required by any Convention. Israel are going above and beyond.

        The UK, US and allies killed 2 MILLION INNOCENT German civilians with their bombings in WW2 - they never took the care that IDF is, they just bombed indiscriminately. The allies never got War Crime allegations for that did they?

        Please engage you rational mind and don’t just believe everything you read.

        • @theluckyone
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          1 year ago

          Your confirmational bias is strong to the point of delusion, and you’re using it to justify murder and indiscriminate killing of innocents.

          I’ll await any proof you have of your statement #2. Otherwise, you’re simply making up fairy tales to justify your own beliefs.

          You see what you want to see, and nothing more. May that weigh on your soul and you be judged accordingly for it.

          • @danielfgom
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            01 year ago

            My conscience is very clear. You neither understand history (thousands of years worth in this case), nor theology (it’s at the heart of this conflict) nor do you understand principles of warfare. Neither do you understand the principle of what goes around comes around. You live in a little liberal bubble has that has no bearing on reality. Do you even know Who your maker is?

          • @danielfgom
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            -11 year ago

            The UN is the biggest discriminator against Israel, on the planet. They are very pro-palestinian and always discriminate against Israel no matter how much evidence Israel sshows them. Bunch of blind bureaucrats. That’s why at a recent UN meeting all the Israeli contingent wore Yello Stars - because the UN refuses to condemn the massacre of October 7th by Hamas. That shows you what dogs the UN are.

          • @danielfgom
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            01 year ago

            This link doesn’t work. They must have taken it down because it’s fake

            • @theluckyone
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              11 year ago

              It doesn’t matter. You’re either trolling or have your head stuck so far up your own arse, the only daylight you’re seeing is from between the gaps in your teeth. Anything that goes against your beliefs is scorned and discarded as “leftist lies”. Despite visual evidence, you’ll make up wild fairy tales to justify your position.

              I can only pray your eyes and mind open in the future to the suffering of your fellow human.

      • @danielfgom
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        01 year ago

        If you stand in the middle of a warzone you’re probably going to get shot by someone’s street stray bullet…

        • NoIWontPickaName
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          11 year ago

          You mean the stray tank shells Israel deliberately targeted two groups of journalists with after the journalists switched from filming to Lebanon, while clearly marked as press?

          • @danielfgom
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            01 year ago

            I’m sure there is a valid explanation. For example we now know that many of these “journalists” are actually working for Hamas to promote propaganda. Could be they were sitting right inside a room/area with their Hamas buddies and Israel shot at Hamas and these “journalists” got killed n the process. You cannot believe anything that come from Hamas, Al Jazeera or Palestinians in general - this lot lie through their teeth all the time because it suits their agenda. Lying to non Muslims to deceive them in order to achieve their goals is allowed in Islam. The world is being lied to alot from these people. Also, Al Jazeera is owned by the president/prince/king of Qatar who is big buddies with the Hamas leaders…

            • NoIWontPickaName
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              11 year ago

              It was a Reuters journalist.

              Here is the wiki link, it has numerous citations under the reference tab.

              What does Reuters have to do with Al Jazeera.

              As far as being lied to, I have the IDF saying that the IDF has lied in the past but not this time, and I am still waiting on 40 decapitated babies.

              How do you defend them now?

              • @danielfgom
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                01 year ago

                There were 40 decapitated babies as well a pregnant woman with a sliced open stomach and the baby on the floor next to her with the umbilical cord still attached to the mother, and the babies head decapitated. Someone I personally know has actually seen the videos as provided by the IDF. They are too gruesome to release to the public. its very real. That’s why Israel is pissed off and hammering Hamas. Remember, the Jews are THE NATIVES, the palestinians are the foreigners. Violent foreigners who don’t want peace. IMO Israel should kick them all out!

                • @bobgusford
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                  11 year ago

                  The 40 dead baby story is Israeli propaganda. I’ve found more authentic sources debunking it than any claiming it as fact. I’m not even sure that you’re not just an IDF stooge spreading the false narratives that allow Israel to keep committing its atrocities.

                  • @danielfgom
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                    01 year ago

                    How can they debunk it is these sources weren’t actually there at the kibbutz to see if the story is true?

                    Please use your brain when reading/ watching anything. Thanks

                • NoIWontPickaName
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                  11 year ago

                  The natives? There is a damn good chance that there are Palestinian’s still alive that remember before Israel was a country.

                  Quit spreading Israeli lies!

                  I personally know someone who has seen the videos of Israeli forces hanging one baby upside down and filling their menorahs with a new sacrifice every night.

                  It’s just too gruesome to show you.

                  I double pinky swear

                  • @danielfgom
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                    01 year ago

                    Israel has been a country for 3200+ years. I doubt you know any Palestinians THAT old …

                    You know someone who saw a video … Are you serious? Who is this liar and can they supply the video?

                  • @danielfgom
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                    11 year ago

                    Who knows? But a war zone is a dangerous place. You might get killed you know?

                    Maybe Hamas shot them to make Israel look bad? That’s exactly how they operate.