• DarkGamer
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    Israel has been very clear that they will attack Hamas targets no matter where they are, inside or outside the evacuation area. If they wanted to just kill all the Palestinians they could have by now but they haven’t. They built sophisticated AI to select their targets so that they can claim their targets are valid military ones.

    I mean there’s a real legitimate case to be made that they need to select their military targets more carefully or that the amount of civilian collateral damages too high, and I feel like that all gets overlooked when instead It gets replaced with the ridiculous claim that israel is trying to genocide all the civilians, which is obviously wrong.(Israel is comprised of many of the same ethnic groups you claim they are genociding.)

    • @Fedizen
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      Look if they were actually trying to avoid civilian casualties the amount of kids killed would not be nearly so high. There wouldn’t be bombed ambulances.

      This isnt war this is slaughter of civilians. Just because they’re using different technology to do it doesn’t mean its a sparkling war instead of a genocide.

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        Palestine is mostly kids, Gazans have a high fertility rate, they decided to have lots of kids in a war zone. Although tragic, it should be unsurprising that they end up being many/most collateral damage casualties. This terrible consequence for slaughtering Israeli civilians should have been totally predictable, yet only Israel seems to be blamed for the violence these children experience, not the ones murdering Israeli civilians while hiding among them.

        I believe the idf claimed that the ambulance was in use by Hamas.

        Israel was attacked by the government of Gaza, and they are counter attacking their infrastructure and their leadership, who hides among civilians. This is war. Civilians almost always suffer and die in war.

        • @[email protected]
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          191 year ago

          They don’t have a high fertility rate. They have a high death rate. If you look at the demographic breakdown, the number of people over the age of 30 or so drops off precipitously.

        • @orrk
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          131 year ago

          high fertility rate bullshit? does supporting Israel make you just turn straight up Nazi? any more race realism takes? maybe you also share the view of the Israeli government that Palestinians are below animals as well?

          • DarkGamer
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            Pointing out a group has high fertility rates = Nazi? Absurd.

            • @ghostdoggtv
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              Blaming the innocent victims of military action for the murders that their killers committed is 100% Nazi shit. Well, I guess they call it Likud now.

              • DarkGamer
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                I’m not blaming them for the “murders.” I’m pointing out they are responsible for the conditions there, and chose to have children in that terrible situation. Causality exists even if you don’t like it.

                Such comments only serve to dilute the seriousness of Nazi atrocities because you want to make shocking but inappropriate comparisons. It’s not a good look, and it’s going to make a lot of people not take you seriously.

                • @ghostdoggtv
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                  11 year ago

                  shocking but inappropriate comparisons

                  The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

            • @orrk
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              oh sorry, the anti-Nazi group is well known for their race realism, like the assumption that different groups of humans have different fucking fertility rates, who were they again?

              • DarkGamer
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                That’s not an assumption, that’s a fucking fact. It seems like you’re looking for outrage wherever you can, even where there should be none. Invoking Gottlieb’s law doesn’t reflect well on you.

                • @orrk
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                  I mean, yes we get it, you are a Nazi, literally the only people who believe shit like this are Nazis, it’s literally great replacement bullshit.

                  If you are upset about being called a Nazi, maybe don’t spout the foreign policy of the Nazis as a basis for invasion, nor, pull the scientific racism of the Nazis, nor even the casual disregard of the “non-master race” deaths.

                  • DarkGamer
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                    You clearly love inappropriately calling other people Nazis. Does it make you feel like you are correct, righteous? To me, it makes you seem juvenile and unwilling to honestly engage. Blocked so don’t waste my time with someone who behaves this way. I hope one day you learn to be better.

    • @orrk
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      161 year ago

      70% of casualties are women and children, this doesn’t mean that 30% are Hamas, after all most men also aren’t part of Hamas, just that they are actively targeting civilians

      • DarkGamer
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        they are actively targeting civilians

        They claim it’s collateral damage, and you haven’t shared anything that disproves this.

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            That doesn’t prove they target civilians, it just proves they are okay with collateral damage. The above is a claim about intent.

            IDF terrorists just claim every civilian male they kill is Hamas.

            Meanwhile Hamas just murders men, women, and children and doesn’t even pretend they are trying to hit military targets, blindly firing rockets or sending out violent hordes.

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              Actually only 29 children died on Oct7 of all the 1200 dead. Including Israeli friendly fire on the Kibbutzes. This shows Hamas did their best to avoid killing children.

              There is not a single video from the Hamas gopros of Hamas shooting children. There are plenty of gopro videos of Hamas shooting the dad but sparing children.

              In sheer numbers Hamas has done like 40 times better to avoid killing children than israel which knowingly bombs entire refugee camps full of little kids.

              I’m not gonna pretend they’re angels but their moral compass is far better than the IDF’s which indiscriminately murders children.

              • DarkGamer
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                In sheer numbers Hamas has done like 40 times better to avoid killing children than israel which knowingly bombs entire refugee camps full of little kids.

                It’s easier to make the case deaths of children are collateral damage with targeted bombs against military targets than with guns used against unarmed civilians at close range, or blindly fired rockets.

                Actually only 29 children died on Oct7 of all the 1200 dead. Including Israeli friendly fire on the Kibbutzes. This shows Hamas did their best to avoid killing children. … There is not a single video from the Hamas gopros of Hamas shooting children. There are plenty of gopro videos of Hamas shooting the dad but sparing children.

                Perhaps. It’s unsurprising that Hamas wouldn’t release propaganda of such things. I watched a lot of the horrible footage from that day, it certainly didn’t give me the impression that they were showing restraint.

                I’m not gonna pretend they’re angels but their moral compass is far better than the IDF’s which indiscriminately murders children.

                Then your moral compass evidently does not distinguish intent from effectiveness. There’s a lot more to it than body count, like who started this conflict, who provoked the latest escalation, and who the intended targets are. I blame Hamas for these deaths by provoking a predictable attack from a superior foe while hiding among Gazan children, I don’t blame Israel for using strategies that minimize their own losses even if it means more collateral damage in a nation they are at war with.

                • @Linkerbaan
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                  Yeah it’s really hard to not make civilian casualties when you throw a JDAM on a refugee camp. If only they could count the amount of children they’re gonna kill in advance from their Reaper drone and throw it right in the middle of them. Surely they wouldn’t kill all those kids if they knew they existed. That would make the IDF genocidal terrorists!

                  Your claim about rifles is true. The coward IDF should dare to go in with rifles and risk their lives like Hamas did on oct7. But the IDF would rather kill a hundred thousand babies than risk their own lives. They have barely entered Gaza and are just bombing it down with airplanes.

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                    Some anonymous sources in articles I’ve read say there is an acceptable number of acceptable civilian casualties per Hamas target that is set by IDF, and this figure went up significantly after the last attack on Israel.

                    Surely they wouldn’t kill all those kids if they knew they existed. That would make the IDF genocidal terrorists!

                    Killing of children as collateral damage is terrible, but it does not a genocide make.

                    The coward IDF should dare to go in with rifles and risk their lives like Hamas did on oct7.

                    That sounds like a terrible strategy that would only serve to help their opponents, for the purpose of what, risking their lives to not be, “cowards,” in your eyes? If Hamas had air strike capabilities I suspect they would use them on civilians with no hesitation and far less restraint. Their stated goal is genocide, after all, while Israel vehemently denies that they are committing one or intend to commit one.

        • @havokdj
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          101 year ago

          You are coping hard lol

        • @ghostdoggtv
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          41 year ago

          We don’t need to disprove IDF lies when they’ve already proven it’s their preferred form of communication

          • DarkGamer
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            “I don’t need to cite facts, I have a strongly held opinion!”

    • @spirinolas
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      111 year ago

      Israel has been very clear that they will attack Hamas targets no matter where they are, inside or outside the evacuation area

      So…unless Israel is lying then Hamas is everywhere. If Hamas is in every place the IDF dropped bombs they are, by far, the biggest army in the world. No wonder Israel is so trigger happy.

      Unless…

      • @ghostdoggtv
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        41 year ago

        When Gaza is dead and Hamas is still around, Israel will finally understand how thoroughly they fucked up.

    • @ReiRose
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      “If they wanted to just kill all the Palestinians they could have by now but they haven’t.”

      If this Israeli government wanted to kill all the Palestinians without looking like that was their plan they would bomb them slowly over an extended period of time while making a human shield argument.