• @[email protected]
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    41 year ago

    Not to mention for civilization to collapse a hell of a lot of people have to die; which probably means environmental collapse; which means the oceans are dying; which in turn means there’s no oxygen being produced because the keystone species (phytoplankton, algae, etc) are mostly dead or switching to toxic modes of energy production. This means that everyone is dying, no matter if they have an ugly DRM controlled polywagon or not.

    • @ttmrichterOP
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      01 year ago

      You should look into how past civilizations collapsed. They collapse quite quickly without a lot of mass death (beforehand, I mean).

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        11 year ago

        Past civilisations weren’t even close to industrialised, nor did they span the entire globe. The closest was the Roman Empire of course, and they just sort of faded away over the course of a few thousand years if you count Justinian’s Byzantine Empire as a direct continuation.

        Our present situation is much more dire, with global consequences for reasons you are likely already aware.

        • @ttmrichterOP
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          01 year ago

          You probably want to read a bit of Tainter.

          • @[email protected]
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            11 year ago

            Why? I’m talking about the collapse of environmental systems that support the life of every oxygen breathing species on the planet, not anthropology.