/u/mindseal and I recently began discussing intention and manifestation and the “mechanism” behind it. We’ve moved our conversation to this thread so that others can hopefully share their thoughts and experiences.
/u/mindseal and I recently began discussing intention and manifestation and the “mechanism” behind it. We’ve moved our conversation to this thread so that others can hopefully share their thoughts and experiences.
Yes, I would say the momentum is only as influential or as strong as you make it. You can tune it by simply deciding rather than, say, going through a complex technique or magick ritual etc…Techniques and rituals are very helpful especially when someone is still new to this stuff, but once you develop an understanding and intuition of the maleability of reality you can tune it more readily i.e. by just deciding. This is something I’m currently playing with.
I’m with you on that. What I was also getting at is that “desire” as you experience it in the context of being a human is not the same thing as volition, it’s rather an experience. Volition is the act of deciding. I feel I need to distinguish these two things because “desire” is aim without volition and is more akin to yearning/craving. This is also my interpretation of Buddhism when it says desire is the cause of suffering. You could even say, you desire to the extent that you forget your volitional leverage.
Originally commented by u/syncretik on 2019-07-15 18:05:28 (ettg1d6)
Exactly.
But sometimes you may (optionally) want to deliberately limit your ability to decide if you notice you tend to decide haphazardly and carelessly at times (sometimes it only takes one bad decision to ruin something important), you may want to put a conceptual magickal “wall” between decisions and emanation so that only especially empowered decisions are allowed to affect something more than the body and the personal conscious mind. That’s where the value of ritual may show itself, but for this one doesn’t need ornate and elaborate rituals, but one just needs a special marker of some sort.
So I agree with you, but personally I have some degree of protection that would protect me from randomly deciding something that I think is “cool” on the spur of the moment and 1 hour later regret. In other words, I have deliberately somewhat constrained my ability to decide some things. I can still decide anything but if it’s really important I have more hoops to jump through, and that’s intentional.
And this has been liberating to me, because it means I can think freely, including having incredibly stupid thoughts, and I can think about what it would be like to decide some dumb things, and I never have to worry that my stupid thoughts will leak out and manifest at large.
It’s like having a manifestational scratch pad that’s not intended as a work of art. On a scratch pad I can try stuff out only to throw it away. If I like how something looks on my scratch pad, I may bring it out more into the “external” sphere.
Maybe if I could trust myself to never even need something like a scratch pad in the first place, I would simplify my internal mental setup even further, but until then I will keep my “wall.”
I completely agree. That’s a very important point.
Exactly!
That’s also why imagination and thinking do not necessarily change manifestation. Only thought with intent to manifest has that power, not just any old random thought. I can think “let it rain” and I can think “let it rain” and intend for the rain to be my relative reality, and those two thoughts will “sound” the same in my mind, but the meaning is completely different and only the second one will manifest while the first one is just me thinking. It’s like thinking “I will scratch my itch” but then refusing to move my arms. It’s just a thought. It doesn’t scratch anything by itself. But if I focused on the idea of my itch vanishing and I was serious and fully expected this to become viscerally realized with good justification (such as having subjective idealism as my worldview in addition to also using intent in that way), then my itch my indeed vanish.
So I completely agree. You’re pointing out a very important distinction, which is also subtle and can be easy to miss.
Originally commented by u/mindseal on 2019-07-16 15:14:31 (etw4vsu)
Yes it’s a good point that you need a buffer to avoid manifesting unintentionally. Sometimes you decide you want something but after letting it set in for a day or two you might change your mind.
Thanks for adding an example to clarify this point.
Originally commented by u/syncretik on 2019-07-16 18:06:58 (etwd9r3)
Why not just add an undo intent or reverse time magik? That would seem more interesting at times. Replay a certain quick minute scenario may be interesting.
Surely that would be possible in our unlimited potential.
Originally commented by u/therewasguy on 2019-07-18 17:24:48 (eu4253r)