Ah, another discussion thread. :) Cool, time to ramble.
I’ve been really really enjoying the recent times. I got access to some legal cannabis again, and I’ve been exploring what is possible with it a second time. So I am leaning toward a conclusion that it’s basically like a psychological microscope. That’s not a novel idea by any means. I’ve seen this idea mentioned on r-psychonaut. I notice it also very much follows intent. So if I am absorbed in some activity on a relatively low dose, it’s like I am not even high. Nothing interesting happens. On the other hand, with that same dose, as soon as I focus my mind a certain way I am high again. And another thing is that this “highness” seems pretty arbitrary. The more I focus, the crazier it gets.
So I’ve had some sessions where I’ve focused pretty intensely and I experienced unusual for me degrees of concentration and a very clear ability to think at the same time, so I could see exactly what was going on. I got into some absurdly deep places in my psyche and I have touched upon what some of my very hidden fears were. I mean, the kind of life I really want to live eventually, a life of manifestational power, it’s no joke. There is sooooo much psychological baggage in my mind that gets in the way, and concentration + cannabis make it so obvious when I focus properly.
The biggest thing I have found is that I still live outside myself. I still think in a way that often requires me to resolve all my stories to some seemingly external standard. On the other hand, I also got a much clearer sense about what it would mean to completely shift the center of spiritual gravity inside myself and it was awe-inducing (I was going to say “awesome” but that word has come to primarily mean “really good”). I definitely want it. But it’s easy to see how this might take a bit of further adjusting for me to get used to further shifts in my own mentality.
There was one moment when I concentrated so well, I could feel my entire experience becoming like malleable jelly. I started hearing strange super-wide echos from sounds that I “knew” should conventionally not have such echos. I started to be aware of a “place” inside me where if I adjust myself, I could make the experience flow in a radically different way, but then this is what also was so awe-inducing. I could feel what it would feel like to start treating all of manifestation as a joke and as a play thing.
I played with a bunch of concepts, because concepts are so magickal and powerful. Currently a really fascinating concept I like is the one of taking a VR (virtual reality) headset off. I’ve had this idea for a long while and later this idea was reinforced for me when I listened to Tom Campbell as well. And the idea goes like this, in two steps:
First I get myself to feel like everything I am experiencing is a result of a special “headset” that I am wearing. I get myself to feel like I am looking into a gameworld, basically, of a really really advanced game that is able to render smells, tactile sensations and so forth. I first try to get this sense of my experience being virtual stabilized a bit before getting to the second point.
Then I focus on what it is like in my “real room” so to speak, in the place where I am “sitting” when I am playing this virtual reality game here. That “room” is obviously completely outside this entire world. It’s a very interesting experience.
Also, I mean this mostly metaphorically, because I am not visualizing a literal headset, for example. The idea is to get a feel for what it might be like to live in a space that is outside this world while at the same time subjecting myself to an experience of this world with its own separate space. It’s a pretty wild feeling.
I though that if I trained myself to “take the VR headset off” really well, it could become an astral projection technique. I’m just having fun playing around with this, so I am not committed to training this into an AP technique, at least so far. For now, I am more interested in figuring out what is happening on deeper levels of myself, the levels that I ignore or pretend aren’t “there”. Once I get a much better idea about the inner content that I tend to keep overlooking, I think I will naturally know what kind of further techniques will be suitable for me, if any.
Originally commented by u/mindseal on 2018-07-30 07:16:48 (e398bsm)
. So I am leaning toward a conclusion that it’s basically like a psychological microscope. That’s not a novel idea by any means. I’ve seen this idea mentioned on r-psychonaut. I notice it also very much follows intent.
And another thing is that this “highness” seems pretty arbitrary. The more I focus, the crazier it gets.
Absolutely, although in my experience it’s easier to make very small amounts - even zero - into larger effects than it is to make large amounts - especially very large amounts - into smaller effects. For this reason I find very small amounts of cannabis as, if not more, useful than large amounts.
There is sooooo much psychological baggage in my mind that gets in the way, and concentration + cannabis make it so obvious when I focus properly.
I’ve had many similar experiences.
I started to be aware of a “place” inside me where if I adjust myself, I could make the experience flow in a radically different way, but then this is what also was so awe-inducing. I could feel what it would feel like to start treating all of manifestation as a joke and as a play thing.
This effect, I believe, is where the greatest potential of cannabis lies and has been a common result for me from large doses, or intentionally amplified small doses, ever since my experience with psylocibin. It’s an extremely powerful and very useful mindset to take on, but also a profoundly disorientating and intensely stressful one if it appears abruptly or involuntarily, which, for me at least, has long been a real possibility and has happened many times. I’ve since learned to induce it when I want, and avoid it when I don’t.
Then I focus on what it is like in my “real room” so to speak, in the place where I am “sitting” when I am playing this virtual reality game here. That “room” is obviously completely outside this entire world. It’s a very interesting experience.
Oh yea, that was an amazing post. :) I just realized it’s basically the same (or very similar) concept, yea.
It’s funny how the stuff we’ve said or thought about long time ago is not really gone, isn’t it? It’s all with us. In relation to this I had an idea that when we meditate, it’s not just the current person that meditates, but all our past thoughts and deeds meditate when we meditate (and the same is true for contemplation too). I don’t want to say the past is the center of power here (which would make it sound like we’re trapped in our past or something, and I don’t mean that), but definitely my cognition of my own past, even if I am not consciously aware of it, is always participating in whatever I am doing.
The above is a comforting thought whenever I get worried about forgetting what I now know, especially when this body has to pass away at some point. As I consider this, I don’t worry about forgetting the good stuff as much.
Originally commented by u/mindseal on 2018-08-13 09:29:41 (e432cq6)
Ah, another discussion thread. :) Cool, time to ramble.
I’ve been really really enjoying the recent times. I got access to some legal cannabis again, and I’ve been exploring what is possible with it a second time. So I am leaning toward a conclusion that it’s basically like a psychological microscope. That’s not a novel idea by any means. I’ve seen this idea mentioned on r-psychonaut. I notice it also very much follows intent. So if I am absorbed in some activity on a relatively low dose, it’s like I am not even high. Nothing interesting happens. On the other hand, with that same dose, as soon as I focus my mind a certain way I am high again. And another thing is that this “highness” seems pretty arbitrary. The more I focus, the crazier it gets.
So I’ve had some sessions where I’ve focused pretty intensely and I experienced unusual for me degrees of concentration and a very clear ability to think at the same time, so I could see exactly what was going on. I got into some absurdly deep places in my psyche and I have touched upon what some of my very hidden fears were. I mean, the kind of life I really want to live eventually, a life of manifestational power, it’s no joke. There is sooooo much psychological baggage in my mind that gets in the way, and concentration + cannabis make it so obvious when I focus properly.
The biggest thing I have found is that I still live outside myself. I still think in a way that often requires me to resolve all my stories to some seemingly external standard. On the other hand, I also got a much clearer sense about what it would mean to completely shift the center of spiritual gravity inside myself and it was awe-inducing (I was going to say “awesome” but that word has come to primarily mean “really good”). I definitely want it. But it’s easy to see how this might take a bit of further adjusting for me to get used to further shifts in my own mentality.
There was one moment when I concentrated so well, I could feel my entire experience becoming like malleable jelly. I started hearing strange super-wide echos from sounds that I “knew” should conventionally not have such echos. I started to be aware of a “place” inside me where if I adjust myself, I could make the experience flow in a radically different way, but then this is what also was so awe-inducing. I could feel what it would feel like to start treating all of manifestation as a joke and as a play thing.
I played with a bunch of concepts, because concepts are so magickal and powerful. Currently a really fascinating concept I like is the one of taking a VR (virtual reality) headset off. I’ve had this idea for a long while and later this idea was reinforced for me when I listened to Tom Campbell as well. And the idea goes like this, in two steps:
First I get myself to feel like everything I am experiencing is a result of a special “headset” that I am wearing. I get myself to feel like I am looking into a gameworld, basically, of a really really advanced game that is able to render smells, tactile sensations and so forth. I first try to get this sense of my experience being virtual stabilized a bit before getting to the second point.
Then I focus on what it is like in my “real room” so to speak, in the place where I am “sitting” when I am playing this virtual reality game here. That “room” is obviously completely outside this entire world. It’s a very interesting experience.
Also, I mean this mostly metaphorically, because I am not visualizing a literal headset, for example. The idea is to get a feel for what it might be like to live in a space that is outside this world while at the same time subjecting myself to an experience of this world with its own separate space. It’s a pretty wild feeling.
I though that if I trained myself to “take the VR headset off” really well, it could become an astral projection technique. I’m just having fun playing around with this, so I am not committed to training this into an AP technique, at least so far. For now, I am more interested in figuring out what is happening on deeper levels of myself, the levels that I ignore or pretend aren’t “there”. Once I get a much better idea about the inner content that I tend to keep overlooking, I think I will naturally know what kind of further techniques will be suitable for me, if any.
Originally commented by u/mindseal on 2018-07-30 07:16:48 (e398bsm)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAlaRdrcQcY&feature=youtu.be&t=2624
I just wanted to drop this here since I found this highlight fascinating.
Originally commented by u/therewasguy on 2019-01-20 04:13:58 (eegabyv)
Absolutely, although in my experience it’s easier to make very small amounts - even zero - into larger effects than it is to make large amounts - especially very large amounts - into smaller effects. For this reason I find very small amounts of cannabis as, if not more, useful than large amounts.
I’ve had many similar experiences.
This effect, I believe, is where the greatest potential of cannabis lies and has been a common result for me from large doses, or intentionally amplified small doses, ever since my experience with psylocibin. It’s an extremely powerful and very useful mindset to take on, but also a profoundly disorientating and intensely stressful one if it appears abruptly or involuntarily, which, for me at least, has long been a real possibility and has happened many times. I’ve since learned to induce it when I want, and avoid it when I don’t.
This reminds me of the eyes-closed-are-actually-eyes-open post I made a while back. I like it.
Originally commented by u/Utthana on 2018-08-12 17:34:44 (e41t6da)
Oh yea, that was an amazing post. :) I just realized it’s basically the same (or very similar) concept, yea.
It’s funny how the stuff we’ve said or thought about long time ago is not really gone, isn’t it? It’s all with us. In relation to this I had an idea that when we meditate, it’s not just the current person that meditates, but all our past thoughts and deeds meditate when we meditate (and the same is true for contemplation too). I don’t want to say the past is the center of power here (which would make it sound like we’re trapped in our past or something, and I don’t mean that), but definitely my cognition of my own past, even if I am not consciously aware of it, is always participating in whatever I am doing.
The above is a comforting thought whenever I get worried about forgetting what I now know, especially when this body has to pass away at some point. As I consider this, I don’t worry about forgetting the good stuff as much.
Originally commented by u/mindseal on 2018-08-13 09:29:41 (e432cq6)