I think that a Marxist society should allow for 0 proprietary software, and instead support for everything in free and open source decentralized technology.

  • Sleepless One
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    61 year ago

    Segueing off your arch recommendation, RebornOS is a really good beginner friendly Arch based repo.

    • ghostOfRoux();
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      Way back when I was using it, I believe Manjaro and Antergos were the 2 biggies with GUI installers. I had heard that Antergos was stopped and just looked up RebornOS and damn it if it isn’t Antergos lol. That’s pretty cool.

      I keep fence sitting on possibly switching to Arch-based full time because of the AUR or over to proper Debian. Might end up looking at Reborn in the near future. It wasn’t even on my radar.

      • @[email protected]
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        21 year ago

        When you say arch-based, is there like a tree of distros? Where a popular distro will then be redesigned by separate devs? Or are they different at a deeper level? I assume they’re all Unix-based at heart?

        • relay
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          51 year ago

          The common bases of linux distros are:

          Debian: known for stability but not fully up to date, uses apt-get as a package manager.

          Ubuntu: Based on debian, but more up to date, and supports more proprietary hardware and software (not that debian can’t do what ubuntu does with a little tweaking).

          Arch: Bleeding edge up to date, can theoretically be unstable. uses pacman as a package manager.

          After the base some people differentiate from the base os by changing the default programs installed (often this is including or excluding proprietary software), desktop environment (gnome, KDE, cinnamon, xfce), have different programs in the repository, or have a different installation experience.

        • yes, the vast majority of distros are based on another distro (which may be based on another, and …)

          Linux is not Unix-based in the sense that it’s a fork of Unix (the latter is proprietary), but it’s certainly based on Unix’s design, just like the various BSDs

    • @[email protected]
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      21 year ago

      Is there a strong reason why someone would move away from a ‘beginner-friendly’ distro? Is it mainly wanderlust?

      • relay
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        51 year ago

        I’m in debian because it uses less ram.

        I’ve played with alpine linux for the wonderlust of seeing if I can work with all of the alternative smaller code bases for the theoretical stability it provides.

        Why use bash when you can use ash?

        Why use the unauthorized escalation bugs of sudo, when you can use doas?

        Why use all of the gnu tools of stallman when you can use the smaller version of those tools with busybox?

        Why use the garganuan sprawling systemd when openrc has a much smaller codebase and fewer vulnerabilities?

        • @[email protected]
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          41 year ago

          I have to say I’m a fan of light (lite?) software.

          I can’t tell you how pissed off I was when browsers switched to infinite ram. One day they were capped at using ~4gb ram and the next, I need a new machine.

          In general, I just prefer the idea of only using enough resources to do what I need a program to do. Options are great, but e.g. with a word processor all I need is stability, footnotes, a few tags, grammar/spell check, and track changes. A few other features are nice to have but almost all the rest is unnecessary bloat and bugs, for me.

          • relay
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            21 year ago

            I was able to run LMDE (linux mint deiban edition) on a 3 gb Imac with libreoffice installed by default, I don’t know if I’d still reccomend that but it would freeze if I had too many tabs open

            • @[email protected]
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              21 year ago

              I think my old laptop has 8gb ram. This is all assuming it turns on after five or six years!

              • relay
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                21 year ago

                right now I have a 32 GB ram tower computer playing a small game, a crazy looking terminal emulator, a spreadsheet program and a browser and it’s still using less than 2 GB of ram. Debian cinnamon is good for me.

                • @[email protected]
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                  11 year ago

                  Impressive. Do you need a lot of ram nowadays to play games? Or do you have so much so you can play games at the same time as having other programs open?

                  • relay
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                    21 year ago

                    Depends on the game. I like playing 0ad and that never seems to use that many resources, but I haven’t checked much. Some steam games can be a bit more intense but 8gb should be fine for most games. Steam proton https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton offers a compatibility layer to play steam games as if they were in wine and works pretty good. I’m trying to game less so I stick to open source versions of pacman and tetris. I was playing rimworld but that shit was like cocaine to me. Rimworld runs fine on linux as well as windows. One thing I like to do is use “yt-dlp -f” to download playlists audio only from various sites, save them in a particular folder, then “cd” into that folder, then “mpv *” to play all of the audio files in that in the background. You can play minetest with the mineclone mod (to be similar to minecraft) while listening to various audiobooks podcasts and lectures that way.

                    8gb should be fine unless you are playing a AAA game, but if you already bought the games, you can try it out.