Free speech is speech that is protected from government regulation or persecution. This is a private platform, and therefore Nazis and their speech can fuck right off.
So yeah, they are absolutely to spew their hateful speech without legal repercussions, but we absolutely do not have to let them do so here.
Their speech hinders the speech of others, particularly the minorities they are violent against. Therefore, allowing them to have a platform goes against free speech. Your right to swing your fist ends at my face.
What you guys over the pond really should learn sometime soon is that free speech doesn’t mean that you can spew any random vile bullshit without repercussions.
In the Fediverse those repercussions are that your audience will be limited to the instance you chose, which honestly considering the content we are talking about is really mild.
Some of the stuff I’ve seen would definitely be illegal in Germany and Austria, and trust me, we have more experience with Nazis than we ever wanted. We have laws in place to at least try to prevent the resurgence of Nazis and this also affects servers like lemmy.world that are hosted at Hetzner in Germany I believe. Not defederating from these people could cause legal repercussions for the server owner and it’s just not worth it, considering the content we are talking about.
Nazism is a process, and they’re in the early stages trying to progress. How far along until I’m allowed to call them what they are?
Is calling an early-caught tumor cancer diluting the word cancer for terminal stages? Fundamentally they are the same, but one is further along in being bad.
some of you need to stop calling everything you don’t like a nazi
Pretty bold comment considering many of the people are actual swastika-waving Nazis. Stop defending them.
i don’t think any of you have so much as peeked over there
Oh I have, actually, and I got to see endless slurs, nazi propaganda images, people calling for the death of minorities, and more. But go off
I’ll defend anyone’s right to free speech. Doesn’t mean I agree with them.
Free speech is speech that is protected from government regulation or persecution. This is a private platform, and therefore Nazis and their speech can fuck right off.
So yeah, they are absolutely to spew their hateful speech without legal repercussions, but we absolutely do not have to let them do so here.
Preach my man
Their free speech is not being violated, just access to a captive audience.
Their speech hinders the speech of others, particularly the minorities they are violent against. Therefore, allowing them to have a platform goes against free speech. Your right to swing your fist ends at my face.
What you guys over the pond really should learn sometime soon is that free speech doesn’t mean that you can spew any random vile bullshit without repercussions.
In the Fediverse those repercussions are that your audience will be limited to the instance you chose, which honestly considering the content we are talking about is really mild.
Some of the stuff I’ve seen would definitely be illegal in Germany and Austria, and trust me, we have more experience with Nazis than we ever wanted. We have laws in place to at least try to prevent the resurgence of Nazis and this also affects servers like lemmy.world that are hosted at Hetzner in Germany I believe. Not defederating from these people could cause legal repercussions for the server owner and it’s just not worth it, considering the content we are talking about.
What if I don’t like Nazis?
Some of you need to get away from the Nazis before they start burning.
oh i’m sorry… you’re actually a patriot and january 6th was a peaceful protest.
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Nazism is a process, and they’re in the early stages trying to progress. How far along until I’m allowed to call them what they are?
Is calling an early-caught tumor cancer diluting the word cancer for terminal stages? Fundamentally they are the same, but one is further along in being bad.
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It’s weird that everyone is just calling everyone else Nazis nowadays, what happened to neo-nazi?
Consider this-the majority of people aren’t using it incorrectly , just to describe people you like?
A lot of the ones I’ve seen defederrated were straight up white supremacists/anti-LGBQT/etc and deserved it.
Okay, we’ll call it “woke” instead.
B-but my disagreement is big! They’re clearly fascists.