“Maybe if the Republicans get elected on a platform of christofascist dictatorship and enact massive disenfranchisement and roll back civil rights, things will get more representative and we’ll see more left leaning candidates in future elections somehow, rather than the people who have promised to ratfuck every election for eternity ratfucking every subsequent election.” This is your ridiculous logic.
My logic: Democrats hold all of the cards. They are not required to run Biden and they have plenty of time to find a candidate that appeals to progressives outside of their core. If they choose to push forward with a mediocre candidate who is currently polling poorly and the worst possible person gets elected, they are responsible for the loss.
They actually don’t have time. The first of the primary caucuses happen in less than a month. You’re talking about putting a full slate of unvetted candidates in front of a national primary with less than a month before voters would have to choose.
The Democrats made an error. They thought the Republicans surely would nominate someone else. They didn’t know Trump would quote Hitler a few days ago. They’re trying to run in an election with an incumbent. That’s how the parties have operated since… maybe the beginning. I don’t know that I know of a time when an eligible incumbent presidential candidate didn’t run. Maybe Washington?
Democrats are making the same mistake that voters are. They’re treating Trump like a beatable candidate, and expecting voters to act rationally. But yet, we see people saying the same irrational thing you are, that it’s better to sit out and let Trump get elected again than it is to vote for a milquetoast candidate like Biden. That’s it’s better for the worst evil to be elected than to vote for the lesser evil. It’s irrational. And yet, here we are, with someone thinking that the Dems can spin up a national primary for couple hundred million people in a couple of weeks.
Sadly the cynic in me thinks it’s precisely the opposite. I think Democrats knew that they would run Donald Trump and just assume he’s an easily beaten target. An impossibly high stakes gamble.
People aren’t that smart and don’t think like that. They think that they are hurting and don’t like feeling forced and will look for who is “on their side and punishing up” or even just become apathetic. You are able to see the long picture and be rightfully scared of it but then it’s up to us to point that out to the people who have power and ability to do something about it. And raise awareness where possible.
He, nor I, have any logical statement on how it will get better for it being worse just that reality is what is. It would be likely a lot worse should Republicans get everything they want, but the Democrats need to see they won’t get votes just for whipping like the Republicans.
You are having an emotional response cause you are scared and shooting the messenger.
“Maybe if the Republicans get elected on a platform of christofascist dictatorship and enact massive disenfranchisement and roll back civil rights, things will get more representative and we’ll see more left leaning candidates in future elections somehow, rather than the people who have promised to ratfuck every election for eternity ratfucking every subsequent election.” This is your ridiculous logic.
Actually, no.
My logic: Democrats hold all of the cards. They are not required to run Biden and they have plenty of time to find a candidate that appeals to progressives outside of their core. If they choose to push forward with a mediocre candidate who is currently polling poorly and the worst possible person gets elected, they are responsible for the loss.
They actually don’t have time. The first of the primary caucuses happen in less than a month. You’re talking about putting a full slate of unvetted candidates in front of a national primary with less than a month before voters would have to choose.
The Democrats made an error. They thought the Republicans surely would nominate someone else. They didn’t know Trump would quote Hitler a few days ago. They’re trying to run in an election with an incumbent. That’s how the parties have operated since… maybe the beginning. I don’t know that I know of a time when an eligible incumbent presidential candidate didn’t run. Maybe Washington?
Democrats are making the same mistake that voters are. They’re treating Trump like a beatable candidate, and expecting voters to act rationally. But yet, we see people saying the same irrational thing you are, that it’s better to sit out and let Trump get elected again than it is to vote for a milquetoast candidate like Biden. That’s it’s better for the worst evil to be elected than to vote for the lesser evil. It’s irrational. And yet, here we are, with someone thinking that the Dems can spin up a national primary for couple hundred million people in a couple of weeks.
Sadly the cynic in me thinks it’s precisely the opposite. I think Democrats knew that they would run Donald Trump and just assume he’s an easily beaten target. An impossibly high stakes gamble.
People aren’t that smart and don’t think like that. They think that they are hurting and don’t like feeling forced and will look for who is “on their side and punishing up” or even just become apathetic. You are able to see the long picture and be rightfully scared of it but then it’s up to us to point that out to the people who have power and ability to do something about it. And raise awareness where possible.
He, nor I, have any logical statement on how it will get better for it being worse just that reality is what is. It would be likely a lot worse should Republicans get everything they want, but the Democrats need to see they won’t get votes just for whipping like the Republicans.
You are having an emotional response cause you are scared and shooting the messenger.