• @machinin
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    11 months ago

    Out of curiosity, how old should someone be when they are detained without any due process, held without charges and at the whim of some invading military force? When is a good age to start doing that?

    • ???OP
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      1311 months ago

      Around 12 in Israel.

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          11 months ago

          In August 2016, Israel amended a law that stated that children under the age of 14 could not be held criminally responsible, in order to charge Ahmed Manasra, 13 at the time of his arrest, with attempted murder.

          A report by Human Rights Watch accusing Israel of imposing policies that amount to apartheid, found that: “Israeli forces regularly arrest children during night-time raids, interrogate them without a guardian present, and hold those as young as 12 in lengthy pretrial detention.” Israel’s foreign ministry has previously accused Human Rights Watch of a “longstanding anti-Israeli agenda” and called the report a “propaganda pamphlet” that had “no connection to facts or reality on the ground”.

          edit: formatting of links

          another edit:

          Here are the testimonies of about 22 children who had been detained by Israel, interrogated, and in a lot of cases physically abused and tortured at the age of 12

          Here are some that I wasn’t able to read so easily:

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          I was held there until around 1:00 a.m. During this time they allowed me to use the toilet but they did not offer me any food. I was very tired but I couldn’t sleep because a soldier slapped me each time I nodded off.

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          Then a Palestinian ambulance arrived and the staff snatched me and took me away in the ambulance. The soldiers shot at the ambulance as it drove away. When the ambulance got out of sight I was transferred to a private car to make sure the soldiers don’t detain me again. The car took me to a local hospital where I was treated and I spent a night there. The doctors painfully brought my nose back into position, took an X-Ray of my face and arm and then sent me home the following day.

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          The jeep drove to a nearby military watchtower where I was taken inside. I sat on the floor and a group of three soldiers took turns beating me for about 20 minutes. Then they threw me out of the watchtower and shackled my legs and tied my hands behind my back with one plastic tie which was painful. I remained outside next to the jeep for about two hours. At around 4:30 p.m. the commander came and started to question me.

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          The troop carrier then stopped at the Israeli police station inside the settlement of Binyamin. I was put in a waiting room where I sat on the floor for about an hour. Then a policeman came and took me outside where they wash cars. The policeman made me sit on the ground until around 5.00 a.m. It was a cold night. I tried to fall asleep but I couldn’t because it was too cold. At around 5.00 a.m. I was taken for interrogation.

          @[email protected] it would be nice if you could confirm reading this and maybe share your opinion, since I spent quite some time putting these together, thanks 😬

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          111 months ago

          @[email protected], hi, just wondering if you checked my response to this question yet? Like I said, I put a lot of effort into it so I’d appreciate you basically “confirming” you got it… it’s because I find it hard to believe this needs to be sourced.

          • Fitik
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            -111 months ago

            @snek Yes I have, however I didn’t see it mention IDF recruitment age anywhere in it. And underage detainees is not something unique to Israel.

            @machinin

            • ???OP
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              11 months ago

              You didn’t ask about IDF recruitment age…

              I hope this was a mistake.

              Edit: just FYI this is what it looks like

              What does it look like for you on kbin?

              • Fitik
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                111 months ago

                @snek I am sorry for the misunderstanding then, I thought it was a reply to my comment about Hamas recruitment age.

                @machinin