Nah this is not how moderation works on the fediverse. If you defederate from Nazi instances, Nazis have an incentive to go to those instances instead of yours - namely because they can’t interact with Nazi content. They can still harass your users of course, but they can’t build a platform and get banned quickly. So on the Fediverse you end up with a lot of Nazis on only a few servers, and everyone just bans those servers. Same goes for pedos, TERFs, etc.
This makes it a LOT easier as an instance admin to moderate content and keep users safe. As a Masto admin, I only get about 10 reports a week because I block about 200-300 servers. It also incentivizes me and my other fellow admins to block that kind of content, because if we don’t, Nazis will come to our servers and we risk being defederated from.
The system is broken then, if it depends on a tiny amount of super powerful users who can and do block entire servers for one comment. Then this system is already broken, unsustainable and a waste of my time.
This is obvious to me, this system is missing a functioning moderation system.
Relying on individual human thought janitors to try and hand-pick back content, because of how human nature is, is vowed to failure from the start.
First the kind of people who are going to be attracted by this kind of power, are never people I would like to allow manipulating what sort of things I see. And second, human lazyness will lead to harsh and excessive decision from those moderators
In fact, a system designed like this, will have to always comprise with making the moderator’s impossible task as easy and as convenient as possible. This will always make the user’s voice into a worthless shitstain in their curated garden.
And I say that as someone who has been victim of such as stupid and broken system.
I was a user of reddit’s /r/quebec, the biggest Quebec discussion forum. The one online place where Quebec society comes to talk to itself.
And to illustrate my point, there was one of those extremely annoying amber alert and the name of the kid was really funny. And the text of the amber alert made it clear it was one of those child custody dispute, not a kidnapping.
So I just made a joke that naming their kid whatever-it-was itself constituted child abuse.
Ah, ah real funny.
And you know what happenned. I have been been permanently banned for life from ever interacting with the biggest online community of where I live.
I find that extremely unfair and it’s obvious why it happened. Those people who delete people, they will never ever be able to handle the scale of sorting that enormous mass of content. So they just delete on sight anything they don’t like, not just the comment but the people themselves.
Any oppressive system like that, which monopolize the center of discourse is a dictatorship.
I don’t care about nazi, the real nazi are the mods. All forums systems so far have been like this. Compromised by their weak, useless moderation systems.
Nah this is not how moderation works on the fediverse. If you defederate from Nazi instances, Nazis have an incentive to go to those instances instead of yours - namely because they can’t interact with Nazi content. They can still harass your users of course, but they can’t build a platform and get banned quickly. So on the Fediverse you end up with a lot of Nazis on only a few servers, and everyone just bans those servers. Same goes for pedos, TERFs, etc.
This makes it a LOT easier as an instance admin to moderate content and keep users safe. As a Masto admin, I only get about 10 reports a week because I block about 200-300 servers. It also incentivizes me and my other fellow admins to block that kind of content, because if we don’t, Nazis will come to our servers and we risk being defederated from.
The system is broken then, if it depends on a tiny amount of super powerful users who can and do block entire servers for one comment. Then this system is already broken, unsustainable and a waste of my time. This is obvious to me, this system is missing a functioning moderation system.
Relying on individual human thought janitors to try and hand-pick back content, because of how human nature is, is vowed to failure from the start.
First the kind of people who are going to be attracted by this kind of power, are never people I would like to allow manipulating what sort of things I see. And second, human lazyness will lead to harsh and excessive decision from those moderators
In fact, a system designed like this, will have to always comprise with making the moderator’s impossible task as easy and as convenient as possible. This will always make the user’s voice into a worthless shitstain in their curated garden.
And I say that as someone who has been victim of such as stupid and broken system.
I was a user of reddit’s /r/quebec, the biggest Quebec discussion forum. The one online place where Quebec society comes to talk to itself.
And to illustrate my point, there was one of those extremely annoying amber alert and the name of the kid was really funny. And the text of the amber alert made it clear it was one of those child custody dispute, not a kidnapping.
So I just made a joke that naming their kid whatever-it-was itself constituted child abuse.
Ah, ah real funny.
And you know what happenned. I have been been permanently banned for life from ever interacting with the biggest online community of where I live.
I find that extremely unfair and it’s obvious why it happened. Those people who delete people, they will never ever be able to handle the scale of sorting that enormous mass of content. So they just delete on sight anything they don’t like, not just the comment but the people themselves.
Any oppressive system like that, which monopolize the center of discourse is a dictatorship. I don’t care about nazi, the real nazi are the mods. All forums systems so far have been like this. Compromised by their weak, useless moderation systems.
I will take 100 nazi before I take one moderator.