• @DarkroomDoc
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      1611 months ago

      This is a simplified to the point of absurdity comment. Microbiome is important, but is absolutely not enough to prevent antibiotic resistance.

      • @MaximilianKohler
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        -311 months ago

        That is simply wrong. I wonder what gives you the courage to make such boldly false statements?

        • @DarkroomDoc
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          511 months ago

          My medical degree, internship, residency, and years practicing as a doctor.

          • @MaximilianKohler
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            -311 months ago

            All that and yet your statement contradicts the plethora of citations that were provided, without providing any support yourself.

            • @DarkroomDoc
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              311 months ago

              If you spent more than 3 seconds reading what you post, you’d realize that fecal transplant only affects the gut microbiome, not body-wide resistance. Fecal transplant, obviously, does nothing to combat pneumonia, skin infections, abscesses, or literally anywhere other than the gut. As the vast majority of fatal or life threatening infections are not isolated to the gut, your argument fails. But I need not argue against citations, as the provided papers don’t even argue your point.

              • @MaximilianKohler
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                -311 months ago

                That’s not true. The gut microbiome regulates the entire body, including other body site’s microbiomes. This information is included in the links I shared. Here is a specific page that covers it https://humanmicrobiome.info/systemic/ but there’s more in the rest of the wiki as well.

          • @SCB
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            -711 months ago

            So nothing relevant to the discussion. Got it.

    • @NAK
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      1111 months ago

      Bacterial infections can kill people.

      Don’t be stupid

        • @NAK
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          711 months ago

          If the choice between giving someone life saving antibiotics or disrupting their gut microbiom until they eat some yogurt, that’s an easy choice.

          False equivalency is what you’re doing, btw

          • @MaximilianKohler
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            -511 months ago

            What you just said is harmful misinformation and 100% demonstrates that you didn’t read a damn thing that you’re responding to and acting like you’re an expert on.

            • @NAK
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              611 months ago

              It isn’t, and a random website isn’t a source

              If you have an article from a medical journal, or a study with a sample size of over 1,000 diverse participants I’ll happily read that.

              I could make a website that contradicts everything in the one you linked and host that for free.

              Antibiotics save lives. Vaccines save lives. They are good things.

              • @MaximilianKohler
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                It isn’t, and a random website isn’t a source

                So you clearly don’t understand how citations work. You shouldn’t even be engaging in discussions like this until you do.

                If you have an article from a medical journal, or a study with a sample size of over 1,000 diverse participants I’ll happily read that.

                Once again proving that you didn’t read anything you’re arguing about. You need to reassess your behavior.

                Antibiotics save lives. Vaccines save lives. They are good things.

                False dichotomy, further demonstrating your cluelessness.

                • @NAK
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                  I know I’m not going to convince you, and that’s fine, but people like you get other people killed.

                  Steve Jobs infamously had a treatable form of cancer, but instead of going to a doctor and doing the scientifically verified treatment he ate fruit that some nut job said would cure him and he died.

                  The only medical advice anyone should ever give is go to a doctor. That’s it. Period. The end.

                  • @MaximilianKohler
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                    people like you get other people killed

                    Trippling down on your pigheaded ignorance to the point where you’re now projecting all your errors and flaws outward.

                    Steve Jobs infamously had a treatable form of cancer, but instead of going to a doctor and doing the scientifically verified treatment he ate fruit that some nut job said would cure him and he died.

                    Once again, a false dichotomy, demonstrating an inability of critical thinking and ability to differentiate shades of color.

                    The only medical advice anyone should ever give is go to a doctor.

                    This would apply well to YOU, because YOU clearly have no clue what you’re talking about. Yet you violated your own policy. You should have stayed quiet on this topic which you clearly know nothing about.

                    And FYI, that is unfortunately not valid for everyone to abide by: https://forum.humanmicrobiome.info/threads/doctors-are-not-systematically-updated-on-the-latest-literature-what-t.27/

                    I know I’m not going to convince you

                    Yes, you would need actual knowledge and scientific citations to do that. Something you’re clearly devoid of.