I have no problem with drag. Where I start to have a BIG problem is when kids are dragged (lol) into it. In the us drag shows, at least I feel, are more adult oriented, and when you start showing kids something that they are clearly uncomfortable with and shouldn’t even have been shown to begin with. That’s where I draw the line. Keep it to adult only places, not schools and libraries where kids can be exposed to it.
A drag show is not inherently “adult oriented”, whatever that means. It’s good to teach children to be accepting. If we are going to ban something for the sake of the children, let’s ban child beauty pageants.
I guess I’m still upset about that drag show that took place in a bar in Texas I believe where they brought a lot of young kids to a clearly adult place where they shouldn’t be regardless of it being a pride event or not.
Sure, there might be isolated incidents of anything, but it’s not a reason to make entire laws about and to demonize a whole group of people for it. Especially if nobody is getting hurt.
I’m sure those children are just fine. The only reason they would not be fine is if someone told them they weren’t. Kids are very freely accepting of everything until they’re told they shouldn’t be.
Drag shows are basically comedy shows. The only real difference is that the presenter typically wears tons of makeup and a gigantic wig. There’s nothing scary or family unfriendly about them.
Just like any show, any drag show has a target audience of course. One drag show might target an adult audience, another is suitable for people of all ages. Just like there are comedy shows and puppet theaters specifically for children.
Pantomimes with people in drag has existed well before any of this fake social outrage has occurred.
When I was a kid I watched Pantomimes. I left thinking “wow that was funny” it wasn’t anything sexual at all.
It’s literally just comedy, that is all it is.
Same with Dame Edna on nightly game shows. I never saw it as anything sexual, a kid literally won’t unless you’re out here describing in graphic detail what a male and a female sex organ looks like, a kid isn’t going to know or even care. Most kids just see someone who is different and goes about their own business playing and having fun, do they sometimes ask questions? Sure, do you need to answer and explain in graphic detail? No, that’s on you if you do, not drag performers.
You would benefit from reading the post by @gundog48 above. In the UK, drag is often something for families. It doesn’t have to be and often is not sexual.
In the us drag shows, at least I feel, are more adult oriented,
Just because you went to some burlesque drag show does not mean drag is inherently adult. Like when drag queens come to read to children, how is someone in a dress and wig reading children’s stories “Adult Oriented”? would you consider a cis woman dressed as Elsa from frozen reading to kids to be “Adult oriented”? I mean ive seen some pretty “Adult” cosplay performances so all cosplay must be adult oriented right? 🤡
That they shouldn’t be shown to young kids? Yes. I’m a huge horror movie buff and play a ton of violent video games(see people playground/tf2) and I’d neverlet my kid consume that content till he is old enough(17) then he can view that stuff, and if that includes drag, then so be it!
17? You know your kid has probably been looking at porn on the internet since they were 9 years old, right?
Also, I grew up in the 80s when our parents took us to see horror movies that also had, *gasp* breasts in them in the movie theater. When we were 9. Somehow we didn’t all turn out depraved lunatics.
Times change, and this is how I want to parent. Also I have a strict web filter in place to block such sites (except for reddit and apps like that) but once he hits 17, it all comes down and we treat him more or less like an adult responsible for his own actions. we are still gonna be there to teach and help him through life but for the most part he’s on his own.
I have no problem with drag. Where I start to have a BIG problem is when kids are dragged (lol) into it. In the us drag shows, at least I feel, are more adult oriented, and when you start showing kids something that they are clearly uncomfortable with and shouldn’t even have been shown to begin with. That’s where I draw the line. Keep it to adult only places, not schools and libraries where kids can be exposed to it.
A drag show is not inherently “adult oriented”, whatever that means. It’s good to teach children to be accepting. If we are going to ban something for the sake of the children, let’s ban child beauty pageants.
I’m not saying ban em, I’m saying keep drag out of spaces where children frequent.
Nobody is forcing drag on children. This “drag invasion of children’s spaces” isn’t a thing.
It’s a Boogeyman the conservative media have latched onto to make people angry. It’s propaganda to demonize a group of people for political gain.
I guess I’m still upset about that drag show that took place in a bar in Texas I believe where they brought a lot of young kids to a clearly adult place where they shouldn’t be regardless of it being a pride event or not.
Why is it you have a problem with Drag, but not the parents that took their children to a bar, which should be ages 18/21and up, to watch it.
Sure, there might be isolated incidents of anything, but it’s not a reason to make entire laws about and to demonize a whole group of people for it. Especially if nobody is getting hurt.
I’m sure those children are just fine. The only reason they would not be fine is if someone told them they weren’t. Kids are very freely accepting of everything until they’re told they shouldn’t be.
Drag shows are basically comedy shows. The only real difference is that the presenter typically wears tons of makeup and a gigantic wig. There’s nothing scary or family unfriendly about them.
Just like any show, any drag show has a target audience of course. One drag show might target an adult audience, another is suitable for people of all ages. Just like there are comedy shows and puppet theaters specifically for children.
Pantomimes with people in drag has existed well before any of this fake social outrage has occurred. When I was a kid I watched Pantomimes. I left thinking “wow that was funny” it wasn’t anything sexual at all.
It’s literally just comedy, that is all it is.
Same with Dame Edna on nightly game shows. I never saw it as anything sexual, a kid literally won’t unless you’re out here describing in graphic detail what a male and a female sex organ looks like, a kid isn’t going to know or even care. Most kids just see someone who is different and goes about their own business playing and having fun, do they sometimes ask questions? Sure, do you need to answer and explain in graphic detail? No, that’s on you if you do, not drag performers.
You would benefit from reading the post by @gundog48 above. In the UK, drag is often something for families. It doesn’t have to be and often is not sexual.
I get that, but I’m talking about the US not the UK.
And that changes nothing
Just because you went to some burlesque drag show does not mean drag is inherently adult. Like when drag queens come to read to children, how is someone in a dress and wig reading children’s stories “Adult Oriented”? would you consider a cis woman dressed as Elsa from frozen reading to kids to be “Adult oriented”? I mean ive seen some pretty “Adult” cosplay performances so all cosplay must be adult oriented right? 🤡
How do you feel about scary movies or violent video games? Same thing?
That they shouldn’t be shown to young kids? Yes. I’m a huge horror movie buff and play a ton of violent video games(see people playground/tf2) and I’d neverlet my kid consume that content till he is old enough(17) then he can view that stuff, and if that includes drag, then so be it!
17? You know your kid has probably been looking at porn on the internet since they were 9 years old, right?
Also, I grew up in the 80s when our parents took us to see horror movies that also had, *gasp* breasts in them in the movie theater. When we were 9. Somehow we didn’t all turn out depraved lunatics.
Times change, and this is how I want to parent. Also I have a strict web filter in place to block such sites (except for reddit and apps like that) but once he hits 17, it all comes down and we treat him more or less like an adult responsible for his own actions. we are still gonna be there to teach and help him through life but for the most part he’s on his own.