Update: it may be limited to those using a hackintosh in conjunction with beeperserv (the jailbreak tweak). Still kind of lousy of them to lock the reddit topic though…

Several users recently reported that after using pypush—the tool that Beeper paid $25,000 for in order to build Beeper Mini—Apple banned their genuine Apple hardware devices from accessing iMessage.

When their comments were shared to the r/Beeper subreddit, one of the mods whom Beeper appointed decided to lock the comments, citing the “need to investigate this further” and directing concerned users to “reach out to support through the appropriate channels.”

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  • Danny M
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    11 months ago

    It’s not that simple. What Apple does, others follow. It’s not just about Apple being Apple; it’s about this bigger issue where all these big tech companies kind of play follow the leader, and the leader is always the first person to dare do something anti-consumerist.

    Before you say anything I have given this company easily over 10,000 dollars, maybe even close to 20,000; I have bought their products for YEARS. Always giving them more chances than I have any other company.

    Over the years I have bought apple products for myself as well as gifts for my family and friends:

    • two mac minis
    • two macbook airs
    • one m2 max macbook pro
    • three apple watches
    • five ipads
    • four iphones
    • 10 airpods (including the wired ones, which I forgot what they were called)
    • two ipod touchs
    • three apple TVs
    • god only knows how many cables (especially with the old wide cable that always broke)
    • god only knows how much I spent on the app store and how many songs I bought on itunes before apple music

    So no, I’m not just a random hater that didn’t give them enough chances. I have given them plenty of chances, more than any person should. And I now take a firm stance:

    I shall not give this company even a penny more until they publicly apologize for their treatment of this small company and open source ALL of their code (not just imessage)

    Yes, it’s extreme, but I’m 100% serious.


    This is textbook cronyism. One company does something, and suddenly they’re all doing it. It’s not just about avoiding Apple; it’s about how all these companies are in cahoots, and that’s what’s messing things up for us consumers.

    The problem is that there truly is not alternative to the tech oligarchy, unless WE create one. The solution is real free market capitalism/consent economies, not the current cronyism.

    But the solution is creating competitive tech companies with morals, with a goal to write software and create hardware that’s better than what the competition offers, but that’s entirely open source and embraces competition.

    We need to embrace a philosophy of transparency and consumer empowerment. This means developing technology that prioritizes user needs and preferences. We need to let go of the ego driven mindset that has dominated the tech industry for so long.

    Whenever this discussion comes into play the same arguments are always presented

    • “It’s too difficult to compete with these giants.” Yes, it is challenging, but not impossible. The tech industry was built on innovation and disruption. New players can emerge with fresh ideas and technologies that challenge the status quo.

    • “Open source can’t be profitable.” This is a myth. Open source allows for a broader base of contributors and can lead to more robust and secure products. Moreover, companies can still generate revenue, and in fact should EMBRACE revenue. Revenue and Open Source are not mutually exclusive.

    • “Consumers don’t really care about these issues.” This is a defeatist attitude. Consumers are becoming increasingly aware of and concerned about issues like privacy, data security, and ethical practices. Companies that prioritize these values can gain a loyal customer base.

    • “The market is too saturated for new entrants.” Saturation doesn’t mean there’s no room for innovation. Often, it’s an indicator that consumers are looking for better alternatives. There’s always room for products that are more user-friendly, secure, and ethical.

    • “What we need is regulations against these monopolistic practices.” Over-reliance on regulation can stifle innovation and entrepreneurship. Instead, the emphasis should be on fostering a competitive environment where new entrants can challenge established players. You cannot use force to create a truly free and fair market. What’s needed is a shift in consumer mindset and a rise in demand for ethical, user-centered technology. We must support startups and businesses that are trying to make a positive impact in the tech world. By choosing to spend our money on products and services that align with our values, we can drive change in the industry. Government intervention will only shift the situation slightly, until a new winner emerges (or the current “winners” adapt) and then the cycle of cronyism starts again. It’s a never-ending game of whack-a-mole unless we, the consumers, take a stand.

    1/3 (sorry I had to split it into 3 comments, I was reaching some limitation I didn’t realize existed)

    • @[email protected]
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      I truly hope this is some copy pasta, because I am sorry but I am not going to read a 3-comment wall of text based on the premise that apple is morally wrong for not allowing a company to abuse their systems and make money off it. iMessage is not this existential necessity where you could even remotely argue that point. It is a subpar service that is outshined by any 3rd party messaging app.

      But you do you.

      • Danny M
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        211 months ago

        not a copy pasta, but also it’s not just about iMessage, but apple in general. I couldn’t care less about iMessage, but what I do care about is that big tech cannot keep acting like bullies.

        In retrospect, I did write a bit too much for a lemmy comment, and it should’ve been a standalone article, but what’s done is done

    • Danny M
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      We have to realize that every dollar we spend is a vote for the kind of world we want to live in. When we choose to support ethical tech companies, we’re not just buying a product or service; we’re investing in a philosophy, a set of values that respects our privacy, values our freedom, and treats us not as products but as partners.

      We also need to nurture a culture of innovation and entrepreneurship, when we see open source products that are valuable to us we should pay for them, as much as we can, even multiple times the amount of money that we pay for the same product from a big tech company, if possible. By doing so, we not only validate the effort put into creating these open-source alternatives but also encourage more developers and entrepreneurs to venture into this space.

      Education plays a crucial role in this change. We need to educate consumers about the importance of privacy, data security, and ethical practices in technology. The solution is not an us versus them mentality because I truly think that most people that hate big tech companies, me included, would welcome them with open arms if they changed their practices and started to put the consumers first again. But until that happens, we need to be proactive in creating and supporting alternatives that do align with these principles.

      The idea of a technology ecosystem built on trust, respect, and partnership with the users is not just a dream; it’s a necessity for the future of our digital lives. It requires a collective effort, where consumers, developers and entrepreneurs work together towards a common goal of a more ethical, transparent, and user-centric technology landscape.

      I am taking a stand against immoral big tech companies and have for a while, but for some reason I gave apple the benefit of the doubt, way more than I should’ve. We can’t afford to give any company a free pass just because of their reputation or history. Every tech giant must be held accountable for their actions and the impact they have on consumers and society at large.

      I’m tired of the same arguments over and over, it’s not capitalism that’s broken, it’s cronyism. We have a skewed version of capitalism, where a few giants dominate the market, often using their power to stifle competition and innovation. This is not the free market at its best; it’s an oligopoly that’s detrimental to both consumers and the industry as a whole.

      To truly reform the tech industry, we need to start valuing different metrics. Success shouldn’t just be measured in terms of market share or profit margins, but also in how a company treats its customers, its ethical standards, and its contribution to technological advancement. We need to redefine what it means to be a successful tech company in today’s world.

      Furthermore, we need to bring back the concept of competition in tech, real true competition, not just a superficial race for market dominance, but a competition grounded in innovation, ethics, and consumer satisfaction. This means encouraging and supporting small companies and startups that dare to challenge the status quo with their ideas and values.

      It’s about time we shift our focus from just the big names to the smaller, more agile companies that are pushing boundaries and prioritizing the consumer. These companies often struggle to gain visibility in a market dominated by a few key players, and they struggle to get the funding required to hire enough developers to compete with Big Tech, but they are the ones who are truly driving innovation and change.

      Consumers have more power than they realize. By choosing where to spend our money, we can influence the market and encourage a shift towards a more ethical, consumer-centric approach. Every purchase is a statement of our values and what we want to see in the world.

      We need to celebrate and support the disruptors, the risk-takers, the ones who are not afraid to think outside the box and challenge the existing business models. These are the people who are building the future of technology, one that is more inclusive, transparent, and respectful of user rights.

      This movement towards a more ethical and consumer-centric tech industry isn’t just about challenging the status quo; it’s about envisioning and building a better future. It’s about understanding that technology should serve humanity, not the other way around. Our gadgets, apps, and platforms should be tools that enhance our lives, not devices that manipulate or exploit us.

      The technology landscape should be always evolving, not stay stagnant as it has.

      In this digital age, our freedom and our data are the most valuable assets that any individual has, and it’s time we start treating them as such. The current paradigm, where our data is often treated as a commodity to be bought and sold without our consent, is not sustainable. We need to reclaim control over our digital identities and ensure that our personal information is used ethically and responsibly.

      2/3 (sorry I had to split it into 3 comments, I was reaching some limitation I didn’t realize existed)

      • Danny M
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        111 months ago

        Repeat after me:

        I will embrace the power of Open Source and actively seek out and support technologies that align with my values. I will educate myself and others about the importance of privacy, data security, and ethical practices in the tech world. I understand that my choices as a consumer have a direct impact on the market and the direction in which technology evolves. I will prioritize products and services that are transparent, respect user rights, and contribute positively to society.

        I will also advocate for a culture of innovation where success is not just measured by profit, but by positive contributions to society and adherence to ethical standards. I will encourage and participate in conversations about the future of technology, ensuring that voices calling for change are heard and amplified.

        I commit to being part of the solution, not just a critic of the problem. I will use my skills, resources, and influence to contribute to a technology ecosystem that is fair, transparent, and respects the dignity and rights of all users. I understand that this is not just a fight against unethical practices in the tech industry, but a movement towards a future where technology truly serves humanity.

        I am officially taking a very public stance against Big Tech, and advocating for a radical shift in how we interact with and create technology.

        Do you want to join the future of ethical technology with me?

        Let’s build FOSS technology. Let’s embrace ownership. Let’s embrace freedom. Let’s innovate with integrity, creating tools that empower rather than exploit. Let’s prioritize the user, designing for needs rather than profits. Let’s champion privacy, safeguarding our data as fiercely as our freedoms. Let’s foster collaboration, embracing diverse voices in technology creation. Let’s cultivate ethical entrepreneurship, where values drive business models. Let’s promote digital literacy, educating ourselves and others on the importance of tech ethics. Let’s support small tech innovators, the underdogs challenging the giants. Let’s demand transparency, holding companies accountable for their actions. Let’s create with purpose, ensuring technology serves the greater good. Let’s unite for a tech revolution, where freedom and ownership are paramount.

        Together, we can redefine the technology landscape, shaping a future where ethics, empowerment, and innovation coexist. Join me in this journey towards a more ethical, open, and user-centric digital world. Let’s be the architects of a new tech era, let’s build the future we want to live in.

        Let’s build Arx.

        3/3 (sorry I had to split it into 3 comments, I was reaching some limitation I didn’t realize existed)